November 27, 2004
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PD Soup
I have been trying to learn more about personality disorders. Scratch that — I have
been learning, not only trying. One of the things I’ve learned is
that I have so much to learn because the definitions, not just the basic
nomenclature but the official theoretical model, made one big shift in 1980, with the publication of DSMIII. Most of what I had learned until recently about abnormal psychology, I had learned before then.After months of reading and studying, I’ve become convinced that most
of what I’ve been learning lately has been simply a new vocabulary,
many of whose words are nothing more than what Gregory Bateson called,
“explanatory principles,” words like, “gravity,” that only give
us a means of talking about things we don’t understand without helping us
understand them. I encounter so much contradictory data, and so
much that I simply cannot credit because it runs counter to my personal
experience, that the more I read the less I think the established
experts know.I think it is time for a new model. I think the psych community
should get together with the neurologists, neurochemists and
orthomolecular physicians, with a few hi-tech shamans (not tribal
medicine men or witch doctors, though I wouldn’t object to their being
included too) thrown in to keep things
real, and synthesize a new model of the mind that takes into account
the electrochemistry involved and the role that nutrition plays in
it. The trend has been in that direction for the last quarter
century, but not much progress has been made.It appears to me
that a major obstacle to that effort is the pharmaceutical companies
who fund most research. They are not going to fund research that
doesn’t help them develop new pills to sell, and so some of the most
vital research
just doesn’t get done. But even in the absence of new research of
that type, many of us already know that such things as compulsive
overeating and compulsive gambling involve the same sort of
neurochemical cascade effects as drug addictions, and yield to the same
orthomolecular nutritional supplements.The currently trendy system uses five dimensions or axes in diagnosing
and prognosing psychopathology. Axis III is concerned with
physiological conditions, but I have seen scant attention paid to
nutrition or basic neurotransmitter imbalances. The emphasis
there is rather on brain injury and disease states.Personality disorders are considered on Axis II along with
developmental disorders, and there is a baffling amount of disagreement
among authorities about both. DSM divides personality disorders
into three clusters.
Researchers, practitioners and other people vigorously dispute the validity
and usefulness of such classifications because there is a tremendous
amount of overlap and crossover among them. NPD, in particular,
often exists along with other diagnoses and comorbid states such as borderline personality, antisocial personality and various substance addictions.In the case of NPD, narcissistic personality disorder, which is what I
first set out to learn about, those “other people” I referred to include both
some of the “sufferers” who are diagnosed with the disorders and their
“victims,” the people who have tried living with them. I would
contend that most of the victims are volunteers, and Greyfox frequently
points out that he and others with NPD make other people around them suffer more than
they do, but let’s not quibble over semantics right now.One of the web’s most prominent authorities on NPD is not a mental
health professional. Sam Vaknin has his own website, has
published a book on NPD, runs a couple of Yahoo egroups on NPD and
narcissistic abuse, and sends out periodic email newsletters to a list
of subscribers that includes me. A websearch today for
“narcissistic personality disorder” returned 47,000 results. When
I added “-Vaknin” to my search terms to eliminate Sam’s sites and sites
that cite Sam, it brought the number down to 36,000. Looking
through them, though, I soon found many traces of Sam Vaknin and his
view of NPD, only not attributed to him.Sam is a pathological narcissist who has found his source of
narcissistic supply in “helping” the “victims” of other
narcissists. The term he prefers is,
“malignant narcissism,” and on one of the sites featuring his writings
each page is headed, “Should we call them human?” From reading
what he writes about those who have the disorder, one might peg him as
a victim, not a sufferer. His bio sets us straight on
that. Sometimes Sam contradicts himself, and he is heavily
emotionally invested in his own theories on the disorder, but what can
we expect from a pathological narcissist? Intrinsic to the
definition of NPD is a heavy emotional investment in one’s own
idiosyncratic reality.Don’t misunderstand me here. I highly value what I’ve learned
from Sam. I quote him frequently, and I print out many of his
newsletters for my own personal NPD non-sufferer, Greyfox. I love
Sam Vaknin.Now that
would really rile him! I don’t suppose he reads my blogs, but if
he did I’m fairly sure he’d get a little uptight about
that. Sam says that Ns feel threatened by love, that it
brings up all the repressed memories of the abuse and neglect that
precipitated their disorders. Although there is widespread
disagreement among authorities on exactly what causes NPD, Sam is sure
that it is cruelty and trauma visited upon the Ns in their youth.I’m not saying that it isn’t, but I am fairly certain that there are a
lot of people who have had similar trauma and abuse who have never
developed malignant narcissism. I think the reasons for that
might be found in variations in brain chemistry. We know that
various people develop various other mental disorders and addictions
while other people don’t even though they use the same substances and
experience similar precipitating factors, because of differences in
brain
chemistry. Why not NPD? Sam himself has written, “Not
enough is known about the biochemistry of NPD. There seems to be some
vague link to Serotonin but no one knows for sure. There isn’t a
reliable non-intrusive method to measure brain and central nervous
system Serotonin levels anyhow, so it is mostly guesswork at this
stage.”It may be true that such levels can’t be measured, but it is fairly
easy, through supplements of certain amino acids, to increase or
decrease the levels of various neurotransmitters and observe the
behavioral results.In that same newsletter, Sam said,
“The narcissist’s moods change abruptly
in the wake of a narcissistic injury. One can easily manipulate
the moods of a narcissist by making a disparaging remark, by
disagreeing with him, by criticizing him, by doubting his grandiosity
or fantastic claims, etc.Such REACTIVE mood shifts have nothing to do with blood sugar levels, or with the presence or absence of any substance or chemical
[my emphasis]. It is possible to reduce the narcissist to a state of
rage and depression AT ANY MOMENT, simply by employing the above
“technique”. He can be elated, even manic – and in a split second,
following a narcissistic injury, depressed, sulking or raging.”What Sam appears to have overlooked here is that rage and depression
are neurochemical states. The relative freedom from narcissistic
rage that Greyfox experienced after he started on orthomolecular
therapy for his substance addictions seems to suggest that the
supplements helped. Also, one of the neurotransmitters
specifically targeted by those supplements is serotonin. In the
fourteen years that Greyfox and I lived together, I noticed
correlations among his stress levels, nutritional status (and therefore
his blood sugar levels), drug use, and other pathological
behaviors including narcissitic ones. That, too, suggests some
biochemical connections.Recently, Greyfox has begun noticing that some events and experiences
sure to have triggered narcissistic injury and rage in the past, aren’t
affecting him that way now. Since we have been using a holistic
approach in his therapy — body, mind and spirit — we’ve no clear idea
how much influence any one aspect of the therapy has had. In my
view, they all work together and none would be so effective without the
others. I don’t foresee any large research grants forthcoming for
holistic healing, so meanwhile we’ll just get by on
self-experimentation and anecdotal reporting.
Comments (10)
You always give me food for thought.
you know, this is really interesting to read. makes one wonder just how many “N’s” (your abbreviation not mine) we’ve come across and just said, “wtf? are they nuts?” and ended up turning cartwheels trying to placate or appease them, if we’re the pleasing types. which i am according to the AA books.
and no disrespect meant. i honestly think it’s too bad that it’s not a more talked about subject. i think it would explain a lot of behaviour to and about a lot of people.
You know, I’ve had a number of people suggest (some quite strongly) that my husband has NPD. I poopooed that at first, but the more I read, the more I think that may just be the problem. It certainly does explain a lot of his reactions to what I would consider normal things, his pathological lying and immediate denial of it, his abusiveness followed by a childlike expression of love & the expectation that all of us will just jump into his arms even tho he was just abusing us. And his need to constantly fill the air with his voice – that just drives me nuts! Just how long and how many different ways can you say nothing & somehow make yourself sound just marvelous?
No wonder at times I just want silence & freedom
After his recent problem with his sisters, which I really don’t understand either, I’m wondering just how well his parents treated them as kids. Perhaps not as rosy a family as I thought.
i wonder if there’s any normal people left … no, i’m not trying to scoff, because i’ve experienced people with some of these traits first hand … but i don’t know any people who aren’t off-kilter in some way … they might act like it, but once i get to know them …
it’s awfully easy to deconstruct the soul and society with metaphors like this … and the insights are real … but not complete … what is normal? … healthy? … sane? … in a world that seems mad?
Very interesting stuff.
oh we’re a bunch of nuts. all of us. god love us all as you do.
X-gram–finished the reading, either call me with new one or post privately on my site. I don’t know how long I’ll be here–it is real noisy, guy next to me is playing some sort of action game–but will be on a quiet library comp tomorrow.
Very interesting…
wow! that was an interesting read….one thing that i was surprised you didnt mention was the Indigo child traits of ADHD and ADD.
Have a great day
Love and sunshine
Kaziophia
I definitely think body chemistry plays a big role in most disorders just like it does in general health matters. Serotonin is definitely a major part. Most of the drugs prescribed to treat various depressive and anxiety disorders either put more serotonin into the body and/or make serotonin receptors already in the brain ready to take in more. When it comes to Nature vs. Nurture type debates, I think the answer is most likely to be Both.