September 12, 2005
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Don’t tell me you’re sorry.
Once again, my topic is words: semantics, semiotic and some of
the subtler psychological effects of language. This arises out of
a delightful conversation between Greyfox and me last evening, in which
he told me about an encounter he had with another Felony Flats
businessman, and drew parallels to that vulgar encounter I had last
week with the semi-literate paranoiac coprocephalic fool here on Xanga
who thought I was a stalker.There was delight in our conversation from several causes. Both
of us take a perhaps immature but nevertheless pleasant delight in
confronting stupidity, absurdity, irresponsible behavior and other
relatively minor social ills. I suppose in some sense it
compensates us for not being rich enough or foolhardy enough to go for
some bigger targets. My love and I also feel a warm mutual
delight whenever we find something on which we see eye to eye.
Differences of opinion can’t stop unconditional love, but we differ on
so many things that finding ourselves in accord on something just feels
so good!Here’s the condensed version of Greyfox’s incident:
The man who sells concrete lawn ornaments at the strip has an unruly
dog that he sometimes allows to run loose. She is a friendly
sweetie, but has never been taught any manners. She has knocked
stock off Greyfox’s tables and damaged it, and she has jumped up on
him, snagged his clothes and scratched him. This is an ongoing
source of friction between the men. Yesterday, the dog made some
ugly scratches in the finish of Greyfox’s new car.When he confronted the dog’s owner, the guy said he was sorry.
Now comes the part of this story that is most delightful to me.
Greyfox jumped all over the man (verbally, figuratively speaking) and
told him that when she scratched him, it was one thing. Skin
heals. Scratching the car was something else — it rusts.
Greyfox said the man came back with a whiny, “But I said I was
sorrreee.” (here comes the good part) Greyfox coldly
replied, “Sorry doesn’t change anything.”It was not so very long ago that I was saying similar things to Greyfox
when he would try to weasel out of some malicious or irresponsible act
by saying he was sorry. It really astounded him when he got to
know me, to learn that those magic words had no magic as far as I’m
concerned. It wasn’t always that way with me. As a child I
was trained by my mother as most kids are. When I’d tell
someone to her face what I thought of her, or bite the playmate who had
just whacked me on the head, or commit any other childish crime,
Mama would shove me toward the injured party and say in a stage
whisper, “Now say you’re sorry.” I learned, just as all kids do
who are programmed that way, that “sorry” lets you off the hook.I had my eyes opened to that bullshit when I was in the therapy group
run by the junkies of the Family House heroin rehab program.
Personal responsibility was their anti-drug. There wasn’t
anything that would let anyone off the hook as far as they were
concerned. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
Insincere recitations of “sorry” brought confrontation, verbal attack,
and contempt. All the honest and sincere contrition in the world
might gain you some understanding and compassion, but it wouldn’t bring
forgiveness. Groveling just didn’t work. The way to earn
their respect and forgiveness was to look them in the eyes and admit
that you’d fucked up, and assure them that you’d learned something
valuable from the experience and wouldn’t do it again.Last week when I received that plaintive “comment” from the sorry
shithead, it wasn’t all the fucking instances of the word “fuck” that
offended me. I stated this in my blog entry, but most if not all
of my readers overlooked it: what pissed me off was that the
little fucker said he was sorry. I hear all the time in AA that
resentment is a “dubious luxury” the lush cannot afford. I think
they would do well to extend that idea to “apologies” that are aimed at
buying forgiveness. Twelve-steppers are supposed to make amends to
those they have wronged and I have heard many people say that their
idea of making amends is to say they are sorry. That’s what
Greyfox tried on me and it just didn’t work. What utter and foul
bullshit it is!Quick definitions (amends)
onelook.comnoun: something done or paid in expiation of a wrong (Example: “How can I make amends”)noun: a sum of money paid in compensation for loss or injury
As my friends the abstaining junkies said, “Sorry don’t cut no
ice.” In Greyfox’s words, “Sorry doesn’t change anything.”
If it is spoken sincerely, with feeling, it might go some distance
toward assuaging hurt feelings and mending a relationship, but it is most often just tossed off
thoughtlessly and irresponsibly, with the expectation expressed by
Greyfox’s neighbor and my little fucking shitheaded stalkee, that it
should automatically get them some forgiveness. Used in that way,
the words are an insult.Quick definitions (apology)
onelook.comnoun: a poor example (Example: “It was an apology for a meal”)noun: an expression of regret at having caused
trouble for someone (Example: “He wrote a letter of apology to the
hostess”)noun: a formal written defense of something you believe in strongly
apology1533, “defense, justification,” from L.L. apologia,
from Gk. apologia “a speech in defense,” from apologeisthai “to speak
in one’s defense,” from apologos “an account, story,” from apo- “from,
off” (see apo-) + logos “speech.” The original Eng. sense of
“self-justification” yielded a meaning “frank expression of regret for
wrong done,” first recorded 1594, but it was not the main sense until
18c. The old sense tends to emerge in Latin form apologia (first
attested 1784), especially since J.H. Newman’s “Apologia pro Vita Sua”
(1864). The Gk. equivalent of apologize (1725 in the modern sense of
“acknowledge and express regret”), apologizesthai, meant simply “to
give an account.”I am appalled at the semantic corruption and distortion that have been
perpetrated on the word, “apology”. I would be willing to accept
a real apology. I would often appreciate a real apology, an
explanation and justification for some offense. Hey, if it can be
justified and explained, then it’s okay with me. But I am not
going to be blown off with “sorry”. Saying you are sorry doesn’t
justify anything. It doesn’t explain anything. The only
concept it conveys is that you are sorry, and that’s a sorry state to
be in.Quick definitions (sorry)adjective: bad; unfortunate (Example: “A sorry state of affairs”)adjective: without merit (Example: “A sorry horse”)
adjective: depressing in character or appearance (Example:
“Sorry routine that follows on the heels of death- B.A.Williams”)And just don’t get me started on the trend of official
“apologies” made by conquerors to the indigenous peoples on whom
they’ve practiced genocide and other atrocities. Sorry don’t cut
no ice.

Comments (13)
Ahhhhh one of my favorite words
se·man·tics ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-mntks)
n. (used with a sing. or pl. verb)
<LI>Linguistics. The study or science of meaning in language.
<LI>Linguistics. The study of relationships between signs and symbols and what they represent. Also called semasiology.
<LI>The meaning or the interpretation of a word, sentence, or other language form: We’re basically agreed; let’s not quibble over semantics.
So by that definition, would “Whoops! I did it again” be as empty a song?
In customer service we’re taught to apologize, but when you do it a dozen times a day it loses its weight.
In personal relationships, real guilt involved, it carries none at all, I agree. What’s done is done, and trust lost is lost.
I agree with you… and to be quite honest when my 12 year old uses the “Im sorry” I almost always say that ” Sorry doesnt cut it kid!” Its just an empty word most of the time its spoken and its infuriating….
When I was a child, being punished for (usually) some non-offense by my mother and I’d say pleadingly, “I’m sorry” my mother would say, “go and look in the mirror and say you’re sorry 50 times and see if it makes any difference.” In that particular case it was a cruel slap in the face for an apology that didn’t need to be made in the first place but I also agree with your opinion on “sorry.” Unfortunately I hear myself echoing my mother’s words with my own children, to a point. When my son says he’s sorry (rare anyway) I tell him that sorry only works if you don’t do it (whatever it is) again….that it means nothing if you keep on repeating the offense.
In reading the onelook definition of “sorry” it almost makes sense if the person is admitting that they are “sorry” as in “I’m a sorry excuse for a friend.”
The definition relating to amends is also interesting. When it comes time to make amends for past ….whatevers…. well, it’s occurred to me that there aren’t a whole lot of ways to make amends. You can’t make amends to someone who is no longer in your life other than by admitting that you wronged them somehow. If someone is currently in your life then you can acknowledge fault and then not repeat the offense. If paying restitution is actually the proper way to make amends I’m not sure how that would work in most cases. It would be a simple matter if the wrong that you did to someone was stealing from them but for other wrongs to make amends for, how can restitution be paid? Carrying around the guilt for past mistakes is counterproductive to the whole Step 4 and 5 exercise isn’t it?
Not sure if that made sense. I think you know what I mean.
there are worse things than hearing “i’m sorry” … like never hearing it from someone who has done many things that weren’t right … true, “sorry” may not make something better … but not saying it or something like it can send a worse message after a few times … “i don’t care what i did to hurt you”
That kid last week really annoyed me.
If you’re sorry delete the words! Damn!
Deanna will be taught amends not sorry.
I guess my husband does the right thing then – he never says he’s sorry, and he never is. I would like to hear it though, because it might show some comprehension that he has done something to be sorry about.
I soooo understand this. I appreciate a sincere ‘I’m sorry’, but after the words come out, some action is expected. That’s what did in my relationship with my ex-husband… I got sick of hearing the apology and then not seeing anything come of it. It’s pretty stupid really, to grovel and cry and beg forgiveness for giving your partner a heap of b.s., then continue giving them more b.s. Why bother apologizing if you aren’t going to do anything differently?
But then there’s the “I’m sorry that crappy thing happened to you, even if I had nothing to do with it” apology. Those can be kinda nice sometimes.
I think the only good thing that the man my mother married ever taught me was “When you say ‘I’m sorry’, it means ‘I’ll never do it again’. So, mean it when you say it.” I don’t force my son to say “I’m sorry”. I know that, at 5, he won’t mean it. He knows that, when he’s done something wrong, he has to make it right somehow. When he dumps his whole toybox, I’m sorry won’t clean it up. Only he can do that (if he wants to avoid a time out on his bed). He’s not a kid that picks fights, and he’s not one that’ll experiment with “gee, I wonder what this handfull of sand will feel like to little Johnny if I throw it in his eyes”. He’s frickin’ 5, he doesn’t have anything to be sorry for. But, that is the only thing I’ll ever teach my son that came from that man.
Hi sweety–I have to quibble with one of your words describing my encounter–”coldly.” There was nuthin’ cold about it–I was hot! Like it was more “I HEAL! THE CAR RUSTS!!!” (“RUSTS” being in bold-face italic)
In retrospect, I was playing the “Now I’vce got you, you son of a bitch” game–only he wasn’t the only son of a bitch, just the one (being neither customer nor cop) that it was safe to unload on. I should probably apologize–after he pays to have the damage fixed.
I use the word “apology” in the Platonic sense–see Plato’s “Apology”.
Boy you hit the nail on the head with this post!
As a child I refused to say I was “sorry” to anyone unless I really was. This drove my mother nuts. She would rant and rave and try to apologize for me. Sometimes, after a little time, I would go back to the person I had offended with the question of forgiveness. I reasoned that I was not going to be a hypocrite.
Now, I’m the mom, and I’m doing my best to instill the same knowledge in my daughter. I don’t want to hear an apology if she doesn’t understand what she’s done is wrong, or if she doesn’t understand why she shouldn’t do it again. Naturally, I expect her to keep making mistakes, but I hope that she learns from them earlier in life than I did.
I can sincerely say I am sorry I read through all this. (*thinking to self ‘there went 20 minutes of my life I’ll never get back!’*)