More on Why We Love,
plus a few days of catching up –
I
have been up to my old tricks, avoiding the computer because of the
work facing me here. Several evenings back, I spent hours working
on the neglected indexing at KaiOaty,
writing HTML until my neck and shoulders were on fire and my eyes
refused to focus. I didn’t even get to the halfway point in the
backlog. Today, I decided to face it again.
Doug had
things he wanted to do on the computer, so I spent a few days in Couch
Potato Heaven, with my back next to the woodstove, playing on the
PS2. Earlier this week, the outdoor temps were down around minus
thirty for a few days. Yesterday they eased up into double digits
above zero. Indoor temps which we’d been hard-pressed to keep in
the fifties are now in the mid-sixties, very livable. raguslil
asked me if there are people here who depend on wood heat. Doug
and I are two of them. Electric heat is only supplementary for
us. When the weather warms up as it has this week, we turn off
the electric heaters. I don’t use oil heat because of allergies.
By his question about injecting amphetamine, baldmike2004 revealed that he hasn’t read my memoirs. That story is in there among the biker years.
I’ve said this before: you guys give great comments. I love the openings you’ve provided with your responses to my latest blog. I can’t resist responding to them, especially since some of you have implied that you want more info.
lupa wrote:
Love
as an addiction. *ponders* Yeah, I can see that…
Definitely explains why it’s always soooo hard for me to end something,
even when it’s gone horribly wrong. I don’t drink, smoke, or do
any other illegal drugs, but I’ve got alcoholic genes so I guess love
and chocolate is where it’s at for me. *snort*
I can just see it now… Romantics Anonymous.

I haven’t heard of any RA yet, but there is an SLAA, Sex and Love
Addicts Anonmymous. Just as Gamblers Anonmymous and Food Addicts
Anonymous were started by addicts who recognized the similarities of
one addiction to another, many addicts had picked up on the connection
long before scientists had traced the chemical components.
Greyfox and I knew that fact when we decided to build AuWay.org — Addicts unlimited. We are your omni-recovery group
(for which I still have a lot of code-writing to do). We say that
the key to any addiction is as simple as ABC: it is All Brain
Chemistry. There are some different neurotransmitters
involved, for example, in alcoholism than in amphetamine or cocaine
addiction, and addiction to nicotine involves more of them than any
other, but there are some basic similarities among them all.
Twelve-step programs work because they support abstinence and promote
personal responsibility. Taking responsibility for one’s actions
removes many of the excuses we addicts find for indulging, and
abstinence (if and when the addict maintains a healthy diet and
lifestyle) gets the brain chemistry back into a healthy balance so that
the cravings ease.
It’s interesting that you mention
chocolate. Theobromine, the addictive chemical in chocolate, is a
precursor to dopamine and norepinephrine, the chemical markers for
romantic love. No wonder it has become so traditional as to be a
cliche for a suitor to bring his sweetheart a box of chocolates.
If you want to know more, try googling, “theobromine, dopamine, norepinephrine“. I got 866 results.
dingus5 said:
I think I read a review of Why We Love in Scientific American. It explained a lot, but was disillusioning. The magic is really a chemical imbalance.
Isn’t disillusionment grand?!? I know it will cause some psychic
pain to some “incurable” romantics (those who don’t want to be cured of
their illusions and delusions), but as for me I can’t shed my own
illusions fast enough. I am reminded of this definition:
“magic” is science we don’t understand yet.
I would, however,
take mild exception to calling it an “imbalance.” That has
connotations that imply an unhealthy state. Certainly for some of
us whose chemistry goes way above and beyond normal and wipes out all
prudence and reason (speaking for myself here, fershure!), limerance or
“romantic love” can be a sickness.
But the three basic
drives that Dr. Fisher’s team identified and studied are not only
normal and healthy, they have been responsible for the continuance of
the species. Lust, romantic love, and attachment
are necessary and identifiable mating drives in every mammalian species
and many non-mammals. Chapter 2, “Animal Magnetism: Love among
the Animals,” gives many amusing and heartwarming examples.
Without them, we would not come together to mate or stay together to
improve our offspring’s chances of survival.
Often it is when that chemistry gets out of balance that trouble starts. Dr. Fisher, in the radio interview
I listened to, suggests ways for couples to keep their romance alive,
and for everyone to ensure that they attach to appropriate
partners. I’m convinced that this is an area where more knowledge
is better.
narniakingz wrote:
Wouldn’t emotion still be quantified as the reaction that causes the initial increase in dopamine and norepinephrine?
It might be (just maybe), in many people’s lexicons. That is why I specified, “romantic love is not an ‘emotion’ in the jargon of psychology,
but rather is a ‘drive’ or ‘motivation’ along with two other related
drives she calls ‘lust’ and ‘attachment’.” One thing that
characterizes an emotion to a
psychologist is that each emotion has its own recognizable facial
expression universally, across cultural and racial lines. Anger
is an emotion, as are sadness and disgust.
Drives come first,
then emotions are triggered when the drives either meet obstacles or
meet with success. Emotions generally result when some drive or
motivation is satisfied, denied, or frustrated. Lust, romantic
love, and attachment are examples of such drives that can trigger
emotions when they are satisfied or frustrated.
Dr. Fisher’s
research team found that the primary factors which trigger the mating
drives in humans are visual stimuli. For many other species,
scent is the primary trigger, but having once been a tree-dwelling
species that needed to be able to recognize potential mates or enemies
at a distance, we developed an “eye-brain”.
The portions of
our brains associated with processing visual data are bigger than those
for any other sense. Dr. Fisher’s subjects were shown pictures as
they lay in the MRI scanners. It is upon their measurable
electrochemical responses to the pictures that the research conclusions
are based.
The team also studied the subjects’ emotional responses to such things as satisfaction
in long-term relationships (which generally brings the changes in brain
chemistry that mark the transition from lust to romance and then to
attachment) or to the frustration
of being dumped. She also has useful suggestions on how to
restore a healthy and comfortable brain chemistry after being dumped.
This comment from canek20xx really made me stop and think:
That
sounds curiously intriguing. Definitely adding that book to my reading
list. I wonder if there are drugs or natural chemicals that one could
ingest to supress this so-called drive. If so – could humans harness
the energy normally dedicated to the pursuit of sex and channel it into
other endeavors? I do wonder.
There are certainly
numerous chemical ways to alter the drives. If you watch any TV
you’ve probably seen commercials for various pharmaceuticals that have
or are claimed not to have “sexual side-effects.” Dr. Fisher has
found that SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitiors) such as
Prozac, which are specifically noted not to have sexual side-effects, do have inhibitory effects on romantic love.
This makes total sense since the drive is related to elevated levels of
dopamine and norepinephrine, and reduced levels of serotonin.
Anything that inhibits the natural reuptake of serotonin is going to
increase blood levels of it.
In that radio interview,
she cites the case of one woman who felt she had fallen out of love
with her husband and was considering divorce until she stopped taking
Prozac. Then the romance came back, and they decided to have a
child. To Dr. Fisher, the moral of that story is that SSRIs can
interfere with your mating and reproductive health.
That’s her opinion, based on her personal perspective. It seems apparent that canek20xx has a different viewpoint. From my
perspective, there are ways to alter brain chemistry that are
preferable to taking drugs. Greyfox and I have taken nutritional
supplements including vitamins, minerals and amino acids
(neurotransmitter precursors) to alter our brain chemistry and get us
over the cravings in early abstinence from our addictions.
I’m
off them now, but am considering taking at least phenylalanine again
since I read this book and made the connection between being in love
and being in remission from many symptoms of my neuromuscular
disorder(s). Phenylalanine is a precursor of
norepinephrine. I forget what the amino acid precursors are for
dopamine, but you can be sure that I’ll be looking them up. I am
NOT going to revive my chocolate addiction — that is for sure!
If I did that, I might very well surrender to the sugar addiction
again, and then before long I’d be morbidly obese again. I have a
couple of dozen pairs of GV jeans to motivate me to keep my current
size.
Norepinephrine is an “energy” chemical in the brain. Dopamine is a “pleasure” chemical. I think canek20xx
might be on the wrong track in wanting to suppress the chemistry.
Take away those neurotransmitters and you take away the pleasure and
energy. Then the body-mind will seek other ways of supplying its
perceived needs for pleasure and energy. Cocaine and amphetamine
are two well-known chemical substitutes for love in generating pleasure
and energy. I would not recommend either of them.
There
is, I know, a better way. In the well-ordered being the spirit
controls the mind and the mind controls the body. That is the
principle behind the effectiveness of 12-step programs: they work
(when we work them) to put the spirit into control. But if our
minds are strong enough we can control our bodies from intellect and
reason.
If we simply understand the chemistry of energy and
pleasure, give our bodies the nutritional requirements to produce the
brain chemistry, and provide our minds with something besides a mate on
which to focus our passionate commitment, we can have it. Mating
is not the only way to trigger the release of those
chemicals. It is only the simplest, easiest and most
accessible means. It’s the one hard-wired in us for the
preservation of the species.
In times when overpopulation,
pollution and aggression threaten extinction of the species it should
not be difficult for aware individuals to divert their mating drives to
other uses. I can see how just being aware of the chemistry
involved could help someone avoid an inadvisable match and a subsequent
commitment to a person or a family that eventually becomes a source of
discontent or contempt — as many of the marriages that result from the
natural drives do evolve.
If you know that the overwheming
feelings you experience are not coming from that good-looking guy or
girl, but from your body’s response to the mating drive, then you might
be able to keep your wits about you well enough to make more
intelligent choices. However, in doing so, you are going against
not only the evolutionary imperatives built into the species, but the
mythology developed by our cultures. I suppose only the
strong-minded individuals will succeed, and perhaps unfortunately, they
will be unlikely to breed and pass on their strong-minded DNA.
UPDATE, Saturday, January 22, 2005, about 4 PM:
It vexes me when things I write are taken out of context. A new
subscriber apparently saw the “Why We Love” reference and didn’t know
it was a book title. Nor did he apparently notice that I draw a
clear
distinction between “romantic love” (which I call limerance) and the
real thing, the kind of love that Erich Fromm called “an act of
will.” Perhaps he did not read all of this entry. I’d be
willing to bet all the money he dropped into my little purple hat that
he didn’t read the foregoing one to which this one refers.
Terry says he loves, “because he can.” Maybe he means he
has the neurochemical capacity to fall in “love” and is grateful for
that. Maybe he means he has the spiritual capacity to willingly
give unconditional love. Maybe he’s just being cute. Who
knows?
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