Comments…
I got comments.
[updated, edited for clarity--thanks Ren, for pointing out the ambiguity.]
It has never failed yet. The way to get people to come
here and leave comments is to bop around Xanga leaving comments on
their sites. That must be some of that social-obligation bullshit
to which my mama failed to indoctrinate me. Please, everyone, be
advised that your leaving comments here will not guarantee that I will
ever comment on your blogs or even read them. I’m capricious
and… well, eccentric, to put it politely. Blogs I read fall
into two categories: those I know that interest me, and those I
don’t know to which I am somehow led. That “somehow” could serve
as a topic for a whole blog someday if I run out of ideas.
These are the comments I wanted to respond to:
Saw
Eric Clapton in an interview yesterday… I think he’s been off booze
for a dozen years or so… Anyway… He said his first addiction was
sugar…. Used to cram handfuls in his mouth when he was a wee lad…
Interesting that addiction groups endorse sugar…. (Do they
really?)
I know they are coffee hounds… Both have to be better than the
alternative…
Keep playing those video
games…
benevolentMitch
Yeah,
Mitch, they do “endorse sugar”. Groups are “autonomous” by
tradition, so I’m sure there are differences. In the AA groups I
know, to celebrate sobriety anniversaries, the group supplies the
birthday cake. There is a designated member who is responsible
for baking or acquiring the cakes and those with upcoming birthdays put
their names and dates on a board along with their preferences in cake
flavors. In between birthday celebrations, someone can always be
counted on to bring enough donuts or cookies to pass around.
In our NA group, which meets in an AA meeting room, there are often
sweets waiting on the table, or someone brings some. Along with
the coffee the group supplies (and in that NA group, keeping an
adequate supply of drugs on hand is my
job, ironically), there are always cream and sugar available, although
for birthdays if a member wants a cake he or she must bring one.
I love you, Mitch, but I don’t appreciate anyone advising, encouraging or enabling me to continue in an addiction. Unlike many people who don’t
think an addiction is harmful unless it is to a dangerous or illicit
substance, I understand that any addictive behavior has psychological
and spiritual costs, along with the wasted time and energy. I do,
however, agree that I’m better off playing games than shooting
meth. My goal is to transecend all addiction.
It’s strange that they endorse other
addictions while trying to cure another one…
I was told at a young age that I
had an addictive personality,
because I’d latch on to one thing and become “addicted” to it…but,
I’m the only one in my family that isn’t an addict. Sure,
once in a
while I will have a drink, but I don’t HAVE to have it…like my
brother or my sister. Ok, I lie…I’m addicted to nicotine,
but that
too shall pass. I sound like I’m making excuses, but I’ve
quit cold
turkey before, when I was pregnant. Why not again?
I just have to
make myself ready, ’tis all.
I’ve been to AA meetings with my
brother (he goes, says he’s not
drinking, but, well, he’s drinking), and I’ve seen bars that had less
of a smoke cloud. Then again, I’ve been to meetings where,
you could
tell that the people GENUINELY wanted to work things out and become a
‘normal’ person again. I’m not sure if it depends on the
place the
group is held, or if it’s all to do with the people….
I think, to a degree, people
actually need isolation. I mean, if
you can’t stand hanging out with yourself, what makes you think other
people will *kiddin* Seriously, though, to a degree, it’s a
good
thing…but there is also an innate need for interaction in which the
bond between humans grow…and, omg, I’ve just blogged you!
I’m sorry,
lol!! I just get so caught up in writing!!
~shadow
morriganshadow
Shadow, that phrase, “addictive personality,” is no longer so
popular in the psych community as it once was. It was a catch
phrase for something that has now been discovered to be not a
personality disorder or character defect, but an artifact of brain
chemistry. Unfortunately many professionals in the field have
been slow to learn or accept that new knowledge, and cultlike groups
such as AA and NA are even slower.
I wish you success at quitting the killer weed. Nicotine is
one of the most toxic substances known to man. Have you ever read
the cautions on a bottle of nicotine sulphate insecticide? In
that form, there are all sorts of federal restrictions on its use, and
legal penalites for misuses. It is also the most addictive
substance known to the drug abuse and recovery profession. What
that means is that it affects more different neurotransmitters than
other common drugs. It disrupts acetylcholine, serotonin,
endorphin, enkephalin, dopamine and GABA balances. The longer you
are addicted, the harder it is to quit and the easier to relapse.
As for recovery groups endorsing other addictions, sometimes that is
conscious and sometimes innocent, and often it is tacitly done and
overtly denied. The abstaining junkies of Anchorage’s Family
House program taught us to carry around candy bars to handle our drug
cravings. They said flat out it was better to be addicted to
chocolate candy than to heroin or meth. There was even, for a
while, a phrase current in the psych community: “positive
addiction”, meaning some harmless activity that might substitute for
substance abuse, gambling, etc.
In AA, the prevailing attitude is that anything is okay if it keeps
an alcoholic from drinking. That was not what the founders
believed, but the idea has achieved popularity with a bunch of As who
are only too willing to accept any excuse to use drugs. Sometimes
in summer, the scent of marijuana smoke drifts in from the open back
door of our AA meeting room. The telltale behaviors of Prozac and
the dopey demeanor induced by various prescribed psychotropics can be
seen at every meeting.
NA’s literature says that it is a “program of complete abstinence
from all drugs,” and that “substituting one drug for another releases
our addiction all over again.” In practice, what is considered a
drug is a subject open to interpretation. Nobody denies that
caffeine is a “mood affecting, mind-altering substance” (the official
NA definition of “drug”) and when Greyfox reads that “complete
abstinence” line during the opening of a meeting, he often takes a sip
of coffee and winks or says softly, “gotta have that caffeine.”
Pointing out the hypocrisy in the program does not go over well with
some members, but it usually gets a laugh.
The rehab center where I do volunteer work has no official
connection with AA. Such connections with “outside enterprises”
are forbidden by AA tradition. In practice, however, this
rehab ranch gets clients by referral from AA groups all over the
country and its program depends on 12-step formats and AA/NA volunteers
like myself. Also, they get “food” by donation from commercial
bakeries, dairies, etc.: twinkies, pies, cakes, chocolate milk,
sugared juice drinks and such, which is available for the residents at all times. This has led to an interesting
situation we’ve observed.
I blogged previously about a rehab resident who went ballistic when
I shared at a meeting about my struggle to kick the sugar
addiction. He pounded the table and roared that sugar was not
what the founders of Narcotics Anonymous had in mind when they formed
the association. Those meetings are monitored by staff members
and this man was confronted later by his counselor about his
outburst. She read him the NA definition of “drug” from the Basic Text and told him that sugar fits the definition.
He did not believe her. He had to try it for himself. He
went to the kitchen and ate an entire banana cream pie (appropriate
choice IMFFHO). Later he “made amends” to me with an
apology and said he’d been staggering, slurring his speech, head
spinning and ears ringing from the pie. To me, that
sounded a bit extreme for just a sugar buzz, but I know of another
condition that could account for it: candidaiasis. Yeast in
the intestines can convert sugar into acetaldehyde, a metabolite of
alcohol. People with this “auto-brewery syndrome” get drunk on
sugar and even have alcohol-scented breath. It is an occasional
result of the use of antibiotics, which kill of the healthful
intestinal flora and allow the yeast to overgrow.
At recent meetings, this man always has a pile of snack cakes he
goes through during the meeting, and he has become very adept at
parroting all the AA slogans. He really talks the talk.
This is a complete departure from his attitude when he first entered
the program. He even said openly at first that he wanted to
complete the program and get out, but would have a hard time “spouting
that bullshit.” Because he has hated being in the rehab from the
start and likens it to jail (where he would have stayed if he had not
accepted rehab), my perception is that he has found a way to indulge
his addiction and say “up yours” behind the backs of his counselors and
the court system.
I don’t get addicted to
much…I guess I’m lucky that I can walk away from
stuff.
RiottGyrrrl
That is indeed “lucky.” I hope for your sake that it is not
temporary. The biomechanism of addiction is such that healthy
people can go along for considerable periods without having a drug
trigger the neurochemical cascades that constitute addiction.
Then, as some toxic limit is reached or the body’s recovery mechanisms
wear out, there will be that “one too many” and one finds oneself
hooked. I hear such stories, of years of use preceding a sudden
realization that one is then addicted, frequently in meetings, so
please, Riott, beware. Addictive substances are dangerous.
You
have a lot of interesting things to read about and as much as
“interesting” isn’t so much of a descriptive word for so much tragedy
that I have read about I find it intriguing and
insightful…
The comment you left on my site
about what I wrote being a
dangerous, hazardous risky invitation I wasn’t quite sure what a
comment like that would mean in relation to my post…
When I first read your site and I
read the whole thing on psychic
readings I was a bit skeptical of what that meant and if I should even
be concerned about what you were writing about or if in reading it, it
would all just be vibes and what not. Mebbie your other site
is… I
haven’t seen it, and although I find “psychic” readings and what not
interesting to learn or read about I can’t say that I truly believe in
them because there can be interpretations of someone’s personality or
life that is so vague that someone who desires to believe could create
what someone was speaking of… but I try to appreciate every person’s
unique interests and beliefs even if they aren’t my own… but that
isn’t really what I wanted to speak about…
I have read some of your various
articles mostly about jail sex and
drugs because those were the topics that seemed to interest
me…
There is a guy that I like right
now who is in jail and unconvicted
but has a hearing and I don’t know how things will go… I
am scared
frankly and saddened although he seems to be affectionate towards
me.
His mother loves me and she calls me religiously after speaking with
him when he calls her. It is rather sweet. I just
wish that things
didn’t have to be that way and although I can visit him I didn’t want
to visit him behind a bulletproof glass wall and through a
telephone.
It is surreal and depressing although I look forward to the
visits. He
is charged with six fellonies and I don’t really know what to
expect.
I was hoping to mebbie learn something from reading your site about
your experience in jail, but I am sure everyone experiences things a
little differently. I just hope that this is over
soon.
You seem to write from your heart
and I think that is wonderful. A
lot of the things that I write about are from my heart as well, just
vague interpretations of my thoughts as opposed to my thoughts
straight
out. I can not be that way anymore. I wish I could
but I do not have
the mental strength to do so. There could be too much pain
associated
with being overly honest where it isn’t welcomed. As a matter
a fact I
am hesistant in being so honest here.
Either way… please take care of
yourself and I am sure I will
check back to read more about you later. Thanks for visiting
my site
and leaving me a sweet nothing even though I didn’t really understand
why you would write what you did in regards to that post.
MeepishKittie
Meep, your blog read to me like an invitation to a fairy-tale
romance. I’ve been there, got disillusioned, had a broken heart
until I learned that broken hearts are simply more fairy-tale
bullshit. In my reality, affection and passion are not
love. Love is not something one finds or falls into. It is
something one does, consciously by choice. It’s a big subject
and I thank you for responding to what I wrote. I will think
about it some more and maybe come up with a blog. You are not the
only fairy tale addict I know, so maybe someone else will find such a
blog interesting, too.
It’s okay with me that you don’t “believe in” psychic
readings. I don’t believe in them either. We believe in
things by choice when we don’t know what is true. I know that
what I do is real, true, ethical, moral, helpful… and I can provide
references, hundreds of them from all over the planet, after
thirty-some years of doing this work. I do not take offense at
your skepticism. In my reality it is equally unevolved to take
offense as to give it. I also know that my profession is rife
with frauds, just as in medicine there are the good doctors, the Patch Adamses and
Charles Gants, and the bad ones, the doctor-feelgoods creating addicts and the cosmetic
surgeons creating freaks.
Your boyfriend in jail is probably very appreciative of your
visits even though the setting is frustrating and depressing.
Visits and letters are important when we are locked up. My
experiences in prison probably have little in common with what he may
experience if he is convicted of some or all of those six
felonies. For one thing, anal rape is unknown in women’s
prisons. It happens every day in men’s prisons, all day every
day. With little else to occupy their time, and the behavioral
sink (Google that if it doesn’t mean anything to you) bringing them
down to their basest instincts, imprisoned men tend to obsessively indulge their appetites for sex and violence.
I hope you eventually gain the strength to write with complete
frankness and honesty. In my far from humble opinion, nothing
else is worth writing (or reading).
It’s
funny that in therapy groups all these ‘catch phrases’ seem to come
into play. I’ve been to a couple and yet I’ve never heard ‘isolating’
as one of them
pipsqueak
Squeak, there are so many buzzwords and catchphrases in use in
12-step programs, it might be interesting if someone (don’t look at me)
compiled a dictionary. We’ve discovered that there are
geographical variations. Things current in Pennsylvania, where
Greyfox was first in the programs, and other parts of the country where
various other members come from, differ from what is in the lexicon
here.
I have heard it said that we all need “solitude” for our
communion with Spirit, but that to “isolate” oneself is pathological
and dangerous. Semantics… doublespeak… bullshit.
I
understand what you’re saying about the program. I was in
those rooms
for a bit, but not for long. I felt like many of the members
presumed
to know my truth instead of encouraging me to look
for it myself.
Of course, any time my truth did
not ring in tune with theirs, I was “in denial”. 
emerging
One of my favorite anonymous people, who attends both AA and NA as I
do, is a young woman who was born into an alcoholic family. In
her oft-stated opinion, “If you use, you’re either an addict, or you’re
in denial.” That’s her truth, from her experience, and for many
people it probably is true. One of the blatant hypocrisies I see
at every meeting is the talk about not taking other people’s
“inventory”, not judging others but looking at one’s own faults and
failings. In practice, most anons are in denial about their own
problems, wearing blinders, experiencing tunnel-vision, unable to see
past the self-imposed limits of their chosen beliefs.
Introspection, which comes so easily and joyfully to some of us, is
hard for many people. I recently learned this when I entered the
debate over mooncry‘s “clearing” technique.
If
I had enough time I could get addicited to Xanga, all these wonderful
blogs I have not enough time to read all of the way through. Some
people ask me why I (a most unlikely person) am a poet. It is because
life and death and all in between compell me to live everyday in the
question, why must it all end?
I could read blogs like yours
forever and shut away the other world,
but don’t let anyone tell me that this world is unreal, because I
learn
more from humans on blogs than I ever have by hearing them
talk.
LordPineapple
Lucky you, Lord P. I have precious little time, but almost as soon as Sarah
lured me to Xanga, I was hooked. There went a big chunk of the
time that I have! This cyber-world is real, as you say. The
friends I have here are just as real as those in my neighborhood.
I’m curious about what could make anyone “unlikely” to be a poet.
I wish I had the gift of brevity it takes for poetic expression.
I’m apparently doomed forever to verbose prose.
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