April 26, 2005

  • Deep Cover


    I heard part of Billy Queen’s story yesterday as Terry Gross interviewed him on her program, Fresh Air,
    on public radio. (You can hear it at that link.)  I liked the
    sound of his voice.  His accent revealed a Southern background,
    but someone who hadn’t stayed in the South.  His tone and his
    words revealed a complex man:  humor, strength, sensitivity,
    courage and principle.

    Some of the experiences he talked about suggested that life inside the
    Mongols MC has a lot in common with what I experienced with the Hells
    Angels almost forty years ago.  Women are property and aren’t
    valued as highly as the bikes they ride on.  Men who hang around
    and party with the club are both tested and… “seduced,” I
    suppose. 

    They’re shown a good time (if they meet the tests of courage and brazen
    disregard for laws and mores) and when they’ve been around long enough
    and made enough friends and a good enough impression, the’re invited to
    join the club.  Then, once they become a “prospect” and wear the
    bottom rocker of the club’s colors, suddenly they’re of almost as low
    status as a woman, sent on errands and required to do all sorts of
    demeaning tasks for any member who commands them.  That’s how I
    remember it, too.


    Two things about the interview made a deep impression on me. 
    Billy’s mother died while he was undercover.  He took off and went
    to her funeral and while “out” he spent some time at the ATF
    offices.  When he got back to the Mongols, the president of his
    chapter and several other members gave him hugs and expressed their
    sympathy.  None of his fellow ATF agents had done anything of the
    sort.  In a way, that makes a sort of sense to me.  I’ve read
    that among police and intelligence agencies, undercover agents are
    outsiders, sorta like the drummers in rock and roll bands, just too
    “out there” to be wholly acceptable to the common herd.

    The other bit of his story that really impressed me was what he related
    about stitching up a serious wound for one of the women.  A member
    who had recently done some jail time for beating his ol’lady, beat her
    up again and split her mouth through and through.  He knew that if
    she went to the ER he’d go back to jail.  The bikers had seen
    Billy stitch a knife wound in his own palm, so they taped her face
    together with Scotch tape and called him to sew up the woman’s
    lip.  He was reluctant, because he had never dealt with a wound of
    that depth.  When he realized that if he didn’t do it, they’d just
    Scotch tape her lip again, he put three stitches in the inside of her
    lip and five or six on the outside.  He said it turned out “pretty
    good,” and that a doctor had later told the woman that he might have
    used a different technique, but it was a “good job.”

    Billy is supposed to be in Witness Protection now.  He told Terry
    Gross that “nobody knew” he was there for that interview, that he
    sleeps with a sawed-off shotgun by the door and never goes anywhere
    without a gun.  After the interview, I looked to see what else I
    could find with Google.  I learned that he spoke recently before
    students at his alma mater.  
    It surprised me to read about the three-page membership application and
    background investigation by a private investigator that was required by
    the Mongols.  I don’t think the Hells Angels used to go to those
    lengths to avoid being infiltrated by the cops.  The times they
    are a’changin’.

    I also learned that a movie studio has bought his story and that
    negotiations are underway to engage a director.  Mel Gibson is
    slated to play Billy Queen.  He has a great story and it could
    make a fine movie.  I’m hoping he manages to keep a low enough
    profile to survive for a while, and that his new life under wraps isn’t
    so boring he can’t handle it.  With some radical reconstructive
    surgery and a voice coach he might be somewhat safer out in public.

Comments (7)

  • A fascinating man…I’m going to google him and if I see the book at the library or bookstore, I’ll read it. Never knew that the Mongols were the most violent motorcycle gang around. How much different is frat hazing from the gang prospect initiation–do the prospects have to break the law to become a full member?

  • I loved reading your stories of the days with the bikers, and this was fascinating as well.  I grew up around a few Angels, people my dad knew.  Rough South Omaha crowd.  They were always great to my sister and I as kids, but I sure as heck wouldn’t wanna date one. That disregard and lack of respect for women, the violence and hierarchical structure…I didn’t know that before reading your stuff.  You are awesome for rolling with them and gaining the respect that you did.

  • Hi sweety–TAKE YER MEDS, when appropriate.

    List of things to bring (probably not complete)

    1.  gun

    2.  Lunch meat

    3. Library books (the paperbacks, any more you are done with)

    4.  Bedding-sheets and a medium-weight spread

    5.  BRK catalogs

    Also, do you remember what we paid for the pound of iolite chips?  Someone wants it, I dunno what to charge.

    Also, I posted some private stuff, well, privately.

    Have a good day–and take yer meds.

  • I heard this on npr too and wondered 1) how in the world guys like Billy Queen both survive and then manage to live in the world after they’ve done this sort of thing, and 2) what motorcycle gang members do when they get really old. How do they live? Or do they all die young? Somebody should do THAT story. Interesting piece.

  • That’s one subject I know nothing about, but wouldn’t mind reading up on.  Maybe I should check out the book.

  • Book sounds very interesting–will look it up. I worry for his protection, hope he is indeed safe. Revenge from the Mongols means a certain death, I know. Glad you shared this.

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