April 23, 2005

  • I caught myself thinking.

    Did you ever catch yourself thinking something you knew you shouldn’t
    be thinking?  Well, unless you never think self-defeating or
    erroneous thoughts, if you don’t catch yourself at it and make yourself
    quit, I pity you.  I feel pretty good about having caught my
    defeatist line of thought this morning.  It made me realize how
    far this recent flare-up of illness has gotten me down.

    When I expressed that to Greyfox, I said that some of the fight had
    gone out of me, that I was losing my will to live.  Not entirely,
    or I’d not be talking about it, of course.  I’d just be lying
    there waiting to die, or I’d be out seeking a dope connection to help
    me hurry it along.

    I still have some fight left in me.  I also have some tools to
    help me:  a lifetime’s worth of experience at being sick and
    getting better, and a small library of motivational CDs and tapes that
    have gotten me through other crises before this.

    Just now as I was driving back from the spring, from a water run on
    which Doug did all the filling and carrying of the jugs and all I did
    was get the car running and drive it, I caught myself playing mind
    games with myself again.  I can tell we’re not all on the same
    team in here –  “we” being the committee, me, myself and I. 
    Ambivalence R us.  I can’t honestly say I’ll be all right.  I
    don’t know.  I’m here and it’s now.  I know that.

    The damned battery was dead again today when I went out to start the
    car.  The battery charger was doing something odd while it was
    charging, too:  oscillating between “charging” and “full charge”,
    the needle jumping back and forth, the green-light full-charge
    indicator blinking on and off.  I’ll take this annoyance and
    distress I feel over that minor crap as a positive sign that I’m not in
    a terminal state of despair over my health.


    WyRMFaery
    asked me if those musk ox poachers having their snowmachines
    confiscated was like it would be to have one’s driver’s license
    suspended in Arkansas.  I’d say it’s more like having one’s pickup
    truck confiscated.  Weapons and vehicles used in poaching are
    subject to confiscation.


    LuckyStars said this: 

    ah addiction.
    sometimes i wonder if it isn’t all an addiction.
    the old “if it’s not one thing it’s another” saying.

    I think
    that [please notice the use of "I" here...it's just me thinking outloud
    as I tend to do here] if we were to try to kick all of our addictions,
    there’d be nothing left.  I did learn to not let alcohol take over me
    as it did my dad and brothers.  I did learn to not take drugs after a
    few pathetically paranoid attempts.  I do know that I have an addictive
    personality.  The computer.  yep.  Bookstores.  yep.  diet coke.  yep. 
    but i don’t consider any of them to be harmful to me or others. 
    I
    guess what I’m beating around the bush at is that sometimes I worry
    about you [shhhh...you know this already and I know your response...pod
    sister].  I worry that you take almost anything that brings you
    pleasure and label it as an addiction.  Almost as if you should punish
    yourself whenever you’re having fun.  Y’know…if you’re feeling like
    total shit [as you were when you wrote this] but you could muster up
    the energy to play some video games, what the
    hell…play…the…video…games.  Set a timer.  You’re stubborn.  I
    know this because I can be, too.  Give yourself an hour.  *bing* shut
    the game off.  If it will help you relax, take your mind off of your
    physical pain for a little while…just…some pleasure, kathy.  An
    hour of time that might take your mind off the pain. 
    Again…it’s just me.  Just thinking outloud.  No harm or offense meant.  Ever.  Not here.

    Marian — no offense taken, no harm done, and I hope the fact that I
    disagree and argue with you will never discourage you from telling me
    what you think.  What I think in this case is that you’ve
    misjudged me.  I’m not a prude or Puritan who believes that
    pleasure is harmful, nor am I so ignorant of the nature of addiction
    that I think anything pleasurable is addictive.

    Doug and I just had a brief, amusing discussion on the question of
    whether I’m stubborn.  He thinks I am.  I say I am not nearly
    as stubborn as I could be, that I make conscious efforts to give,
    to be flexible.  He says the fact that I have to make such
    conscious efforts proves that I am stubborn.  Maybe you’re right
    about my being stubborn, but that has nothing to do with addiction.

    Besides that debatable trait of stubbornness, there are some things I
    definitely AM, no debate possible.  An addict is one of those
    things.  I’m poly-addicted, cross-addicted and sure of it, though
    neither ashamed nor proud of it.  There have been several comments
    in recent weeks from people who used the term, “addictive personality,”
    and I’ve been meaning to address that.  I just didn’t have the
    energy.  This morning’s realization that I need to get to work on
    getting better has somewhat energized me, and your words about
    addiction above have galvanized me.  I can’t let such bullshit
    slip by me unopposed.

    I do not relate at all to your initial statement that you “wonder if it
    isn’t all an addiction.”  All of what?  How are you defining
    “addiction?”  That idea is nonsense to me, even more than the
    nonsense of “addictive personality.”  The idea of addiction as a
    personality disorder was current a generation or so ago.  At the
    time, addiction was seen as a psychological thing.  That was
    before the brain chemistry of addiction was understood.  There are
    still professionals in the mental health field who think in those
    terms.  Not everyone keeps up with the state of the art in any
    field.

    There is no such thing as an “addictive personality.”  You can
    find the term in common usage, yes, and in old books and maybe even new
    books written by people who don’t keep up with the times.  You
    won’t find it in authoritative new works. 

    The ease with which changes in diet or nutritional supplements or
    various medications alter addictive responses gives the lie to their
    being personality disorders.  Recent findings in neurochemistry
    have cast the entire field of personality disorders into
    question.  But to return to the specific case of addiction: 
    an addictive response is a cycle of neurochemical excitation and
    exhaustion. 

    The new, current, state-of-the-art neurochemical model of addiction
    answers longstanding questions that have always surrounded the issue,
    and resolves mysteries such as the question of why one person’s
    response to a specific chemical is different from another’s.  The
    concept of “addictive personality” was nothing more than an explanatory
    principle, a name given to an imperfectly understood phenomenon.

    If what you say about having nothing left if you were to kick all of
    your addictions is true for you, that’s very sad.  It is far from
    true for me.  I have many “things” in my life, both activities and
    material things, that I enjoy and from which I derive various benefits,
    to which I am definitely not addicted.  Those things include my
    work with stones and metal to make jewelry, the healthy foods I eat, my
    volunteer gig driving the rehab van, the cats and my dog Koji, my
    collections of baskets, pitchers and mugs, writing my memoirs,
    blogging, studying… I could go on.  Perhaps it would be more
    informative to list my addictions.

    I am  (or have been) addicted to amphetamine, codeine,
    barbiturates, caffeine, alcohol, capsaicin, games (video games and
    others), TV, news, detective stories, sexual orgasms, and probably some
    other things but that’s enough for now, to allow me to illustrate my
    point and to point out the differences between addiction and simple
    pleasures. 

    With any of the things in this list of addictions, the more I get the
    more I want.  When circumstances prevent me from indulging or when
    I force myself to stop, I can go long periods of time without any of
    them and in general the longer I go without it the less I will crave
    it.  When I indulge in any of them, I find it hard to stop. 
    I will usually continue to indulge until something compels me to
    stop.  During the initial “detox” phase after I stop, I experience
    cravings and withdrawal symptoms.

    A timer won’t stop me.  I can ignore a timer.  A polite
    request, such as Greyfox asking me to stop playing solitaire so he can
    use the computer or Doug asking me to let him use the PS2, is more
    likely to get a quick, harsh, dismissive response if it gets any
    response at all, than it is to stop my addictive play.

    I must emphasize, this is not a personality disorder, not simply
    something I choose to do out of stubbornness or selfishness. 
    Addiction is a matter of brain chemistry.  The hook with the
    detective fiction is suspense combined with the dopamine reward system
    for learning and figuring out problems and puzzles.  Likewise with
    the games.  Something similar is going on with the news and
    television addictions.  They grab me and won’t let go, but after I
    turn them off and spend some time in withdrawal, I feel revulsion for
    them and don’t want to become enslaved again.

    Another thing that these activities all have in common and share with
    the substance addictions is that when I’m in the midst of active
    addiction, in a crisis of indulgence, I neglect other needs and I have
    feelings of guilt and self-loathing because I know I am doing things
    that are damaging to me physically, mentally and/or socially.  Any
    halfway aware adult is not going to feel good about herself if she is
    wasting time and/or other resources and just can’t bring herself to
    stop.  Fortunately, sometimes I must sleep.  When I go to
    sleep, I turn off the TV or the PS2, and sometimes when I awaken, just
    as a drunk at the end of a big binge or a burned out speed freak after
    a long runner, I opt not to turn it back on, and I go cold turkey.

    Your advising me to play a video game is not significantly different
    from suggesting that I go out and spend a few hundred bucks on
    speed.  It is especially unfortunate, or would be unfortunate if I
    were not aware of the danger and determined to evade it, right now when
    I’m already in crisis.

    I know, I know… you were very careful to shield yourself with all
    those protestations about it being your opinion and “no offense,”
    etc.  Perhaps it is because you’ve had such a sheltered life and
    have no knowledge of how easily an addict can be encouraged and enabled
    to indulge.  Maybe that’s it, maybe not. 

    I don’t know where it was coming from.  It could be coming from
    your own denial regarding your own true addictions.  Maybe saying
    that it’s “all an addiction” is the way you avoid looking at what
    really is an addiction.  Greyfox picked up on that very telling
    statement that, “if we were to try to kick all of our addictions,
    there’d be nothing left.”  Dear one, pod sister, that is an addict
    talking, as any other addict will recognize.  It’s an addict in
    denial, rationalizing, justifying and trying to hang onto her
    addictions.  It’s pathetic and unhealthy.   I will say, and
    this is not “just my opinion,” this is an expert, informed opinion that
    you can take to the bank:  your diet coke addiction is harmful,
    cannot be otherwise given the chemical makeup of the drink, and you are
    in denial about it.

    If you keep it to yourself, then it can only harm you yourself and
    those around you who care about and depend on you.  If you, as you
    did in your comment to me, allow your denial and your perceived
    emotional need for support in your denial to motivate you to encourage
    and enable other addicts to indulge, then the harm from your denial can
    spread out in ever-widening circles.  Watch that.  Addicts
    stay out of trouble only through vigilance.  We indulge our
    addictions at the risk and expense of our self-respect.  Some
    addictions are relatively easy to kick because to indulge them is very
    expensive, risky, illegal, etc.  The toughest ones are the ones
    that can be denied, that may masquerade as “harmless”.  The ones
    that don’t kill our bodies can still kill our souls.

    No thanks, I’ve enough to deal with already.

Comments (10)

  • WOW SuSu that was very educational and passionate!  Give me some direction on where I can learn more.  I was using “addictive personality” as a figure of speech really – I have never had an informed opinion (so many “so called professionals” have told me one thing just to have the next say something totally different)!  All I really know is that I find something that holds my attention and gives me the feeling I am looking for.  I will realize it has control over me and stop only to realize i’ve found something else.  What is that?

    I just bought the blood type book and actully for no reason I know if I haven’t had crying  bouts in several days.

    I hope you are getting closer to your license – thanks for the continuing education it helps many of us

  • i’ve read this twice trying to come up with something to say other than…”okay, i was wrong.”, but i can’t.
    thank you for taking the time to answer me.  you’re one of the few people from whom i can [and do on a regular basis] get “verbal” spankings and come out of it for the better.  although this time i think you had hold of my ear a little tighter than normal.

    i wonder if you know how much i’d love to be able to spend some time with you.  [alright...i'm not too sure about the outhouse but, hey, i can adapt.  a little.]  just to listen and ask questions and learn.

    oh…one thing.  yes, i did and do lead a pretty sheltered life but, i know far too well how easily an addict can be encouraged and enabled.  i’ve seen it, lived with it, done it.

    you know?  i never thought about crossword puzzles as being an addiction.  heh.  i used to eat them up.  every day the new york times crossword puzzle and i would go head to head.  i had my books, notes…notes!…i made “common phrase” notecards!  i stopped doing them regularly when sarah’s needs became my priority.  i still pick them up once and awhile but i don’t feel the need to finish them in the do or die way i used to.

    i spent the day on my feet doing this and that and then some.
    kept pushing and pushing myself to keep moving.  so now?  i’m going to shuffle off to read some more.

    kathy?  thanks.

  • What Lucky said… about just being there to watch and listen and learn. I would not be up for the outhouse either, so I suppose you don’t have to worry about us surprising you one day. But, jeez… it would really be a life’s moment to sit on couch potato heaven and tap your mind.

  • “Another thing that these activities all have in common and share with the substance addictions is that when I’m in the midst of active addiction, in a crisis of indulgence, I neglect other needs and I have feelings of guilt and self-loathing because I know I am doing things that are damaging to me physically, mentally and/or socially. Any halfway aware adult is not going to feel good about herself if she is wasting time and/or other resources and just can’t bring herself to stop.”

    amen.

    ‘Addicts stay out of trouble only through vigilance.’

    and again.

    now that i’m not abusing my usual substances (coke, marijuana, and alcohol) i’ve found my addiction latching onto everything from internet to chocolate, something i used to mildly detest. and it’s been mostly through the observations of others or listening to others reflect over their coffee at meetings that i’ve managed to keep my eyes on those addictions. I want to be free of addiction entirely; if i’m going to give sovreignity of myself to something other than my higher power, i might as well go all out and back to the coke. (well, not literally, that would be foolish, but i think you know how i feel)

    it’s nice to read what you write about addiction. i wish there were more people as well-spoken and intelligent as you are at my AA meetings.

  • I have lots to say regarding this post but I am too tired…. I’m sure you’ll survive without my 2 cents.  Love You

  • Thanks for answering my quiestion!

  • Fuck the verbal spankings…… I wanna see the real thing…

    And wtf is a prote station? Tried to google it and came up with gas and train…..

    I have but one addiction and Robert Palmer said it best….

    I’m of topic aren’t I? You hate that…..

  • Is it better to be an addiction than have an addiction?

  • Thanks for giving me a lot to think about.  I remember in some post or memoir your referring even to pain as an addictive thing/sensation, because it triggers those dopamine reward systems.  I thought that was b.s., or at the least a masochistic impulse, but now I know precisely what you mean.  In my short sobriety I have found myself getting easily angered, and realized the rush of that anger is triggering it.  The hardest thing for me to deal with in sobriety from alcohol is boredom, just sitting in my own skin and being okay with myself.  That’s where food, compulsive reading, Internet, even meetings come in.  I despair of ever getting there, but I see some people with peace of mind, not rushing from one thing to the next which will keep them from sitting with their feelings and being okay, so I realize it’s possible.  I don’t know how to do it, yet.

  • I am reminded of a study done at Penn State, about how addictive Coca-Cola is.  They never pinned down whether it was more the sugar or the caffeine, but there was a super-synergism.  I knew a Coke addict–drank liters a day of the stuff, was morbidly obese.

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