June 13, 2004

  • It never ends.

    CamelJoe again:

    I am hoping that you never ignore my questions,  because I ask out of curiosity, and not to [be?] funny or ignorant.

    I find it funny [adjective:   beyond or deviating from the usual or expected--onelook] that you will freely admit to curiosity [noun:   a state in which you want to learn more about something--onelook], but not to ignorance [noun:   the lack of knowledge or education--onelook].  Is not your ignorance the reason for your curiosity–else, why want to learn?

    well first off, i guessed who was calling when the phone rang before
    I picked up. Lucky guess. I really don’t believe in Phychic ablilities,
    and telepathy and telekinisis, probably because I am a see-er to be a
    believer.

    You seem confused and even dishonest, if only dishonest with yourself.  If you are being truthful in the statement
    above, you have been wasting my time all along.  On the off chance
    that that is true, this, Rachel, will be your last chance to pester me
    with questions.  That statement goes beyond ignorance, even beyond
    stupidity, into prejudice.  Your mind is made up?  Is that
    right?  You choose to believe that psychic abilities (no need to
    capitalize, but please learn to spell it if you’re going to continue using
    the word) do not exist, and yet you believe in luck while contending that you must see to believe?  Isn’t it funny that you don’t believe in psychic abilities and I don’t believe in luck [noun:   an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that leads to a favorable outcome--onelook]?

    Even before I was born, at Duke University, pioneering researcher Dr. J.B. Rhine,
    in his ESP lab, had tested many people for telepathy and precognition,
    and got results far exceeding any that could be expected through
    chance.  He coined the term “extrasensory perception.”

    In the 1970′s at Stanford Research Institute, Russel Targ and Harold Puthoff,
    in physics and electronics labs (and I do mean PHYSICS, not psychics),
    tested everyone from Ingo Swann (a famous psychic) to their students,
    secretaries, and  pizza delivery boys.  To their own surprise they found that virtually
    everyone they tested had some capacity for “remote viewing” (telepathy), and no one group stood out over any other.  Next year, in 2005, a new edition of their 1978 book, Mind Reach:  Scientists Look at Psychic Abilities, will be published.

    Can you point to any research demonstrating the existence of
    luck?  Research in that field is still tentative, to the best of
    my knowledge.  Results are largely anecdotal.

    Is it sad that I look forward to seeing your answers?

    I don’t know–does it sadden you?  If so, you might gain some
    valuable personal insight by pursuing that thought
    introspectively.  Has anyone ever taught you introspection?

    The thing about our dialogue that really saddens me is the sorry
    state of your education.  I don’t know what kind of schools you’ve
    gone to, but they suck, bigtime.  Evidently no one has taught you
    how to do library research, and there were apparently no dictionaries
    in your classrooms.  You have a world of knowledge (literally) at
    your fingertips.  All of these questions you’ve been asking me,
    you could have answered in more detail, and possibly more authoritatively, by going to Google or, if that’s too cerebral for you, you could ask Jeeves.

     I’ll
    keep asking more questions.

    Thanks for the warning.

     I really  want to bout this whole phychic
    thing.

    My reading skill, the ability to decipher plain and not-so-plain
    English, suggests that you may want to battle (“bout”) some new fad or
    fashion I’ve never heard of before (phy-chic), but thanks to my amazing
    psychic powers, I know that you want to learn about mind-power, your
    mind moves faster than your fingers do, and you lack the patience,
    humility, and consideration for your readers, to proof before you post.

    I haven’t had any weird thoughts by the way.

    As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so “weird” is in the mind
    of the thinker.  To my mind, your entire way of thinking is molto weirdissimo.  And that “weird thoughts” line I tossed off yesterday was a joke, kiddo.

    Ermm I hate to be
    annoying but teach me how to be pshychic lol, wow im so nieve. (did i
    even spell that right?)

    Hell, no, and you KNOW you misspelled it!  You could have
    looked up the correct spelling if you were not so content to be
    wrong.  What kind of OS do you have?  Mine is Windows, and
    right now I have six windows open:  this one, Google, Onelook, two
    of the technical pages I found with Google to link for your
    edification (which I intend to go back and read more closely after I finish this), and one that Doug left for my amusement when he went to bed, which I will link for the amusement of my readers.  It’s a pip of a ping of a pong!

    I’m not sure that “naíve” is the best word for you.  I’ll stick
    with “confused”, and maybe “obtuse” [no, not an angle greater than square, but "adjective:   lacking in insight or discernment"]  Your confusion verges on multiple personality
    disorder.  You say you want me to teach you how to “be” something
    the reality of which you do not even believe in.  That’s pathetic.

    The fact is, you are already psychic.  EVERY   NORMAL   HUMAN   BEING   IS  
    PSYCHIC.  “Extrasensory” perception is built into the human
    brain.  Our remote ancestors were using it millennia ago to find
    game for food, to give just one example.  Conventional “modern” education
    doesn’t teach us to develop those capacities.  Fear-based
    religions disparage and demonize them.  Unevolved, willfully
    third-eye-blind “skeptics” make their fames and fortunes making fun of
    them.   Naíve followers blind themselves to their own psychic
    awareness and call it luck or guesswork or hallucination or
    delusion.  The deluded ones are those who choose to keep their
    eyes closed.

    Here is a little bit of what I picked up by going to psychic
    seminars and hanging out with experts in the field.  I must give
    credit to my mentor Dick Sutphen.  Most of this came either directly from him or through contacts I made at one of his seminars.

    There is no little red light that lights up in your mind to alert
    you when you are receiving psychic data.  It’s just a thought like
    any other thought.  It could be imagination or a brain fart. 
    Psychic practitioners should get an “MSU” degree, letters to put after
    our names, meaning “makes stuff up.”  All of this stuff does,
    after all, come from our minds.  Mind-to-mind communication and
    precognition, etc., being “all in the mind,” are difficult if not
    impossible to distinguish from other thoughts.  Before we can
    learn to make good use of our non-physical senses, we must learn to
    trust ourselves and our own minds.  Then we must learn how to
    verify and validate what we perceive.

    Rachel, thus far you have shown yourself to be unwilling to take step one, so how can you expect me to teach you anything?

    1) What is your name

    Look it up for yourself.

    2) do you AOL or AIM? so that I could talk to you faster?

    AHA!  AOL… that explains a few things.  Perhaps when you
    have progressed some, if you progress, I will make myself more readily
    available to you.  Meanwhile, I like it just as it is.

    3) Man o man just talking to you makes me want to learn more and learn to see if I have any “powers”

    Rachel, just look… I mean scroll up and see how radically you have
    changed your tune in the course of this one post.  And you claim
    you don’t have any weird thoughts!

    How can you expect me to instruct you when you are so
    disrespectful?  I told you that knowing who’s calling before you
    answer the phone, finishing other’s sentences, etc., are signs of
    telepathy.  These are everyday realities that most people
    disregard because they’ve been taught to fear the powers of their own
    minds.  You say it’s not so and then you go on and importune me to
    teach you.  I cannot even begin to guide you unless you are
    willing to accept what I say or at least give it a try.

    I will leave you at that because I know my questions are getting on the annoying side. Sorry..

    -Rachel

    sorry.. Im back again hehe..

    If our dialogue is to continue, you must cease the “sorry”
    bullshit.  If you’re going to be sorry about it, don’t do
    it.  If you do it, don’t be sorry about it.  You’re wasting
    words, engaging in mental masturbation there.

    when you said

    We should be able to have some fun playing with remote viewing and such

    what did you mean?

    I meant what I wrote.  What part do you not understand?

    and when u said

    I connected with you and your friends the first time I found your Xanga sites.

    what did you mean?

    Hmmmm…. owstopkickinme… isn’t she a friend of yours? 
    There’s at least one more in that little circle I found sometime last
    year.  The name isn’t coming to me, but I’m getting the image of a
    duck.  Damn leaky, fuzzy memory….  Anyway, the content of
    your weblogs didn’t excite me, but you girls interested me. 
    That’s what I mean.  There was a psychic *ping* that told me there
    was something in that circle worth making the effort to
    communicate.  And you’ve validated it through your interest and
    this dialogue.

    ok sorry.  -rach

    There you go again, jerkin’ off.  I know you’re not sorry, so stop playing word games.

     

Comments (8)

  • And the crowd goes, “oh” … and the crowd goes … “ah”.

    I’ve been at the other end of that ass kickin’ brilliance of yours.  And I’ve got to admit, I’m utterly thrilled to simply be reading and participating only on the peripheral.

    You’ve taught me so much in the last fifteen years.  I’m still learning. 

    Thank you, for that.  I Love You. 
    Keep on keepin’ on, Kathy.  You’re my hero.

  • Ha, you are funny. Look I didn’t think it would offend you that I use poor english, and that I don’t spell things right. Let me put it this way, I don’t mean to offend you, because I don’t know you, and I don’t know what makes your tick. By the way, the name was Dudeyourgetinaduck. Good memory.

    Believing in being psychic is like me believing in any other thing. I was taught that all that stuff was bullshit, and I want proof to know that it is true. I want to be psychic, I want to learn, yes this is true, but I am impatient and I want instant results. I have NO idea about this topic what so ever, so me not having any idea is just something that is.

    I asked you what you ment by We should be able to have some fun playing with remote viewing and such. I didn’t understand what that ment. What the hell does remote viewing mean? That is what I didn’t understand.

    Sometimes I read your writing and I don’t understand. It is like a good book, all the words seem like gibberish piling up on eachother, in one ear and out the other. Usually I read your post again, and thats why I usually comment more than once.

    Please have patients with my IGNORANCE because I am only 17. You have plenty more years on me education and living wise.

    And I am willing to take the first step, I just would like to know what that step is. If you wrote it already, I didn’t comprehend it at all.

  • ESP For Dummies.

    I think you should write it, Kathy. 
    See Jane Run.
    See Dick have vision that Jane will fall and hurt her knee.
    See Jane Fall.
    See Dick and Spot go help Jane, with bandaides.

    Something like that.  (I had to come back … and see what was posted via more comments … and yes, I’m being a smart ass.  Be gentle with them. )

  • You handle everyone so well.

  • I have to give Rachel kudos for determination.  Kathy would have scared me off by now… not really… sort of…

    Like, Sarah, I have learned and still learn much from you.  Thank you, Kathy.

  • This was a fun post….ja gotta love them egos…

  • I agree, DM, ego is one of the best things we have, and the real challenge in personal evolution is not to kill off the ego but to learn to co-exist with other egos.

  • i have no words for this exchange.

    well, one: fascinating.

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