June 11, 2008

  • Interspecies Love

    Can we dispense (for now) with those thoughts of interspecies sex?  Yeah, we know it happens, and sometimes, such as in the mating of peach and plum to make nectarines, the outcome is splendid.  I’d just rather wait until Mercury isn’t retrograde and Venus isn’t square Uranus, before I tackle that topic.

    Today I’m thinking about affection and partnership, and the way they often transcend biological boundaries.   Interspecies cooperation helps get work done and can make life more sustainable and satisfying for everyone.

    Up until about fifteen thousand years ago, archaeological evidence
    suggests that our relations with other species were all of the
    predator/prey variety, or as competitors for territory and food.  The earliest evidence of animal domestication involves dogs. 

     When I was a kid, the prevailing theory was that humans adopted
    orphaned wolf pups.  A more recent, and to me more credible idea is
    that wild canids moved in on our garbage heaps, and then their affiliative, big-eyed puppies moved into our hearts.    A recent genetic study suggests that all present day domestic dogs are descended from “three females near China,” about 15,000 years ago.  By 14,000 years ago, dogs were being buried with their people in Germany.

    Genetic research suggests that cats also domesticated themselves.  They show up in the archaeological record as far back as 12,000 years ago, and their importance to humans is shown by ancient Egyptian cat mummies, and respectful burials of cats alongside humans in other cultures.

    Sheep and goats were first domesticated around the same time or shortly after cats were  What I have been learning about the way dogs and cats domesticated themselves has made me wonder if maybe some sheep or goats might have wandered into a human shelter during a storm.  Another possibility is that the dogs and cats gave us the idea, and we took it from there.

    Donkeys and horses were domesticated at around the same time in different parts of the world.  At Krasni Yar in Kazakhstan, the earliest (7,000years ago) archaeological signs of horse domestication are pens with lots of dung.  Those horses could have been penned for food.  Evidence of horse riding first shows up in Kazakhstan and the Ukraine, about 5,000 to 5,500 years ago.  It consists of bit wear on teeth in some horse skeletons.  The relatively small numbers of skulls showing bit wear suggests that some horses might have been ridden for purposes of herding the others.

    Genetic data traces all extant domestic horses to one ancestral stallion and/or his close relatives.  Matrilineal diversity is much greater, and it would have taken at least 77 ancestral mares to produce all the lines of currently extant wild and domestic horses.  Sorta reminds me of Genghis Khan.

    How do you like these pictures I found to go with this topic?  I had a lot of fun collecting them.  This one is of Jeff Guidry and Freedom, the eagle he nursed back to health from injuries that included two broken wings.  They have been together for ten years.  Just as the photos above illustrate that interspecies love can involve many other species besides our own, this one shows that there doesn’t have to be any long history of domestication for animals and humans to form loving bonds.

    Kamunyak, the lioness in this photo, during the summer of 2002, adopted five separate oryx calves.  It wasn’t such a great thing for either the lioness or the calves, because some of them were killed by other lions, and some had to be taken away from Kamunyak by rangers because they were too young to survive without their mothers’ milk.  Every time she would lose one calf, Kamunyak would go find another one.

    It isn’t uncommon for any mammalian female to adopt whatever little thing comes around, especially at times when her body is flooded with oxytocin, such as when she has just borne young.  I found videos today of two different cats cuddling baby chicks along with their kittens.  In addition to countless dogs and cats, I have mothered broken birds, a raccoon, an opossum, orphaned lambs and calves, and a tubful of tadpoles, among other things.  Sometimes, I stop and ask myself if that is nuts, and the answer is always, “Maybe so, but it feels great.”

    Mammals and birds aren’t the only ones who can develop odd interspecies relationships.  Mzee, this 100 year old tortoise, adopted Cosmo, an orphaned baby hippo.  Cosmo is now much bigger than Mzee, but they are still friends.

    I’m not going to go very deeply here into the moral or ethical issues surrounding our interactions with animals.  I’ve done it before, every March for the last few years, when the Iditarod is on.   The benefits of interspecies relationships can be one-sided, or they can come down on both sides.  People are as capable of being inhumane to other species as we are to our own kind.  I don’t understand that.  For me, happiness is a warm puppy.
     

Comments (23)

  • I had no idea nectarines were “made” that way!

    about the horses, I wonder if they were not ridden (sp) even earlier without a bit?

  • I am always one to take in stray animals of all types. Most recently the biggest toad I have ever seen. I struggle though with 1 question. Am I taking this animal out of it’s natural environment, for a selfish purpose? I love the animal and I want to feel good taking care of it. Is the animal better off left alone? One could argue that it could then be eaten by another critter. But one could also say that I am taking food out of that critters mouth. Helping one, harming another.

    I am always stuck there. I feel my animals love me and show affection to me. Even the snake and toad. But is it immoral to remove them from there purpose of the natural order of things?

    Struggles, struggles…..

  • i love my scooter,,, is that a different species?

  • i agree that love between different species is pleasant. heart-warming, if you will. it’s particularly interesting to me when a potential predator shows affection to its potential prey. do you think one sex is more likely to care for another species? i suppose the obvious answer is that females are more likely, but i wonder…

  • haveing a new kitten just shows me how little it can take to love something

  • @relaxolgy - I think that is quite probable.  Archaeological evidence would not be able to show that, but it does prove that horses have been ridden at least as far back as that evidence of bit wear on teeth.

    @WYRMFaery - Last summer, I had some of those same thoughts about the tadpoles I rescued (actually I saved the eggs from the swamp as they were drying out).  In that case, they’d never have hatched in the natural environment, and one of them actually bonded with me and would swim into my hand when I dipped it into the water.  Were they repaid for the trauma of their unnatural environment by having the chance to live at all?  I don’t know.

    BTW, in case there’s any doubt, ’tis I, SuSu, wearing the coyote skin.  My son wants on here right now, and there was no time to spare for signing out and back in again.

  • @mejicojohn - I thought your scooter was just an abnormal growth on your ass.

    @popuppomegranates - Our abundant oxytocin makes females more likely to form attachments of any sort, but both sexes secrete ocytocin, and both obviously do form attachments.

  • It’s ironic that you so often post about things that I have been toying with in my mind….well… today I was thinking about the possibility of my son leaving me.  What I thought about was that he’d SO miss his cat.  We have 5, plus the two dogs, but our “old lady” was originally “his” cat and he adores her.  He’s begun to mentally prepare himself for the idea that she may leave this world in not too many years (she’s 11.)  ANyways… I wondered if he would want to take her with him, or if his father would allow him to.  I know that he’d miss her if she couldn’t go with him.

  • What does all this tell us about the war between gay and straight????

  • I know that I’m “too affectionate” with my critters.  Right now, Monster is under my right foot (we’re holding feetses) and I just put the conure to bed after letting him groom my whole face and give me lots of kisses. I take showers with the conure too. He just loves it.. Of course he doesn’t know that it’s any different for me to be naked or clothed.  Social creatures will always get it where they can I guess. Everybody just wants to be loved. I figure if I get all warm and fuzzy inside when I take care of critters, that must mean whatever source I come from wants me to do it. I wouldn’t want to live without my critters. 

  • That was really interesting. I would have a very difficulty time living in a home without pets. We have 3 cats and 2 dogs.

  • Love the bear and dog story.  The pics are great.  My husband the snake and I (fish) have been getting along pretty darn well for 30 years.

  • I hope this post gets featured!  *hugs*

  • cabbits exist i have heard.
    that Mzee and Cosmo story is one of our favorite books.
    :)

  • I have dated a couple of subhuman creatures in the past, so does that qualify?

  • Geeze, I love that picture of Jeff Guidry and Freedom.  That is something else!

    When I was a little kid I used to play with a crow.  It used to fly up to our front door and beat a wing on our screen door until I came out to play, and then we would go to the swingset together.  It would perch on top of the swingset while I goofed around.  Nobody believes me when I mention it, but it is true.  It was one of my earliest playmates.

  • Couldn’t live without my critters.  

    A friend of mine is a friend of Jeff Guidry’s sister and she often passes on photos of Jeff & Freedom.  Unfortunately, when I lost my hard drive a month or so ago, I lost the photos as they were in emails & saved as emails & never downloaded to a photo folder.  (My photo folders were all backed up, so those I did not lose.)    :(  

  • @soul_survivor - Moving might be hard on her, since cats get attached to places.  My son also has a strong bond with an old cat.  Granny Mousebreath was here, and at least five years old, when we moved in in ’98.  That makes her about 15 now.  Around here, cats come and go, but that one is special.

    Ikwa - Cabbits!  I hadn’t heard of that.  I’m going to look it up.

    @quitchick - I believe you about the crow.  I have had some feathered friends.  I once nursed a crow with a broken wing.  After I released him, he stuck around.  He’d wait in the fig tree by my kitchen door for me to get up each day.  After greetings and pets, he’d go on about his bird business, and I’d go to work.

  • This is a nice entry

  • @Lobos_Photos - It happened!  When I signed in, there it was, second on the list in Featured Content.  Wow.

  • Everything is possible, love is without limit. I love my cat.

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