May 30, 2008

  • Remember when?

    Have you been on Xanga long enough to remember when our comment boxes carried the advice to, “be nice?”  It said something about not wanting to “start a flame war on your own site.”  I always thought it would be more considerate to start one on my own site than on someone else’s.  The farthest I’ve ever gone with it, however, was just a brief flame skirmish or two.  [WARNING:  Don't click that link if you don't like strong language, lousy spelling,  bad grammar and general stupidity.]  I tend sometimes to lob a round or two back at the flaming assholes before I block them.

    Recently, Xanga John identified himself as a “recovering nice guy.”  I can appreciate that, both from the perspective of  someone who doesn’t like to be nice, and as a woman who would rather converse with an honest guy than with a nice one.  I have several less complimentary alternate terms for “nice,” such as mealy-mouthed, weaseling… you get the picture, don’t you?  Don’t make me use the nasty words here, or I’d have to rate this post a C for caution.

    Some people have accused me of going out of my way to be cruel.  Anyone who believes that is deluded.  The only facets of communication for which I will “go out of my way,” are matters concerning accuracy, honesty, integrity, and such.  I go out of my way to avoid being influenced by thoughts of how others might react to my writing.  Even if I cared, it’s too hard to predict.  You can’t please everyone. 

    If someone reacts angrily to what I say, I might remind him that anger is a manifestation of fear.  If someone gets her feelings hurt by my words, I might try to counsel her about taking control of and responsibility for her own emotions.  Those who accuse me of being mean or evil might or might not receive some semantic or philosophical largess from my generosity of spirit, out of the goodness of my heart.  It all depends on the mood I’m in and on whether I have anything better to blog about at the time.  If I ignore bullshit, it is never because I want to shy away from a confrontation.

    In my random wanderings on Xanga recently, I have encountered a couple of flame wars.  I came in on each of them well after the beginning and don’t know how either one started, nor do I care.  They mean nothing to me beyond their entertainment value, and that statement alone, I know, could be enough to stimulate one party or another who is involved in one fracas or another, to flame me.  I suppose that the current astrological confustion, dysfuction, mistaction… whatever– has had something to do with those emotional storms and verbal battles.  If Mercury retrograde didn’t start it all, it surely has contributed to the rebounding and ricocheting misunderstandings that have ensued.  Bravo everybody!  Keep the invective flying.


    In local news:

    Woman pleads guilty to robbing trick-or-treaters.

    You could have been following the saga of the Halloween Bandits with me from the start last fall, if I hadn’t been under the weather at the time.  Greyfox shared stories with me that he read in the papers and saw on TV news.

    On Halloween night, in Talkeetna, a group of seven children, all ten and eleven years old, was walking on Main Street, trick-or-treating.  According to the Anchorage Daily News:

    The children told troopers a pickup stopped and two women in ski masks got out, threatened them with a handgun, fired a round in the air and demanded their bags of candy. The bandits took off with six bags of treats and a $500 iPhone, troopers said.

    Later that evening, troopers apprehended two men, [Kendra] Butts’ and [Amber] Martin’s boyfriends [Michael Scott Wilson and Aaron Tolen, both age 24], at a diner in town after some of the same children spotted the pickup parked outside.

    In the days and weeks following the arrest of the two men, the story developed in local media.  Amber Martin, 20, wasn’t much of a challenge to apprehend, but troopers had to squeeze into the crawl space under a house to nab 18 year old Kendra Butts. 

    Troopers’ investigation turned up about $70,000 worth of stolen property, and the two men, who were originally held on outstanding warrants and charges of hindering prosecution and providing false information, eventually were charged with burglary for a series of thefts that had occurred in recent months.

    At their arraignment in November, 2007, the two young women went to great efforts to hide their faces from cameras.  Ms. Butts, behind the papers at right, was evidently not happy with the media coverage of her daring exploit.

    As she waited for the judge, she directed a string of invectives at the media, at one point holding up her middle finger and saying, “Trick-or-treat this.”  (source:  adn.com.  All photos credit Evan Steinhauser)

    The Halloween Bandits have been back in the news this month as the two young women plead guilty to armed robbery, a charge that can bring a sentence of up to 11 years.  Their attorneys have agreed as part of the plea bargain not to ask for sentences of less than seven years.  They are due to be sentenced in August.  The two men go on trial in July.

    And that’s life on the last frontier, where men are men and women hold up little kids at gunpoint for their Halloween candy.
     

Comments (17)

  • Flame on. No, not really. I just felt like saying that. I say it to Fritz a lot…”flame on, flamer.” lol

    But yeah, internet drama in general is laughable at best. And sad at times, because you know that sometimes that other person insulting you from the other computer, that’s the best thing they’ve done all day. Sad, init?

    -G.

  • I had a HUGE fight in my first blogring!  LOL  It took me over a year to get over it!  I like you style!  hehe

  • I have seen some recent flame wars too,I have not,nor am I looking to have one ,I hate drama and especially dislike touchy people but they seem to be attracted to me…it is a curse.

  • I have always thought of you as blunt and to the point…sometimes, whether I agree or not it is food for thought

  •   I have seen enough drama.  It’s okay if that’s “what makes your skirt fly up”, but I’m just not interested.  It’s like when my puppetry young guys want their shows to be all about hitting each other.  I let them go at it then I fake a yawn and I asked them how they plan on keeping the audience entertained.  We start creating scenes that are funnier and much more creative, but my point is and I do have a point, they had to have a starting point and it wasn’t at the level they could and can reach. 

    PS: Wow robbing girls! (not ladies) Bad form!

  • I see some flaming here and there and, if it’s invited by the original blogger (political, etc), that’s fine but I avoid it.  The ones who bother me are the little weenies who seem to randomly pick bloggers to make incredibly cruel comments…those I have no patience for and hope someone identifies them as troubled and finds them help.

  • Just breezing through. Enjoyed reading what appears to be the writings of someone with a fabulous vocabulary and the mind to back it up. Apparently I am naive as I have never heard of much less encountered any flaming. I expect things will heat up xanga glombs onto the political arena this fall. Thanks for the good read.

  • I certainly hope that my asking if I knew you wasnt the reason behind this blog. You’ll have to forgive me, I’ve had some trouble with people creating fake xanga’s and commenting my site (feel free to read my guestbook if you wanna know what i mean). But seeing as how you’ve had your blog since at least 2005 (by the way the blog you linked cracked me up!!) I know you’re not one of the aforementioned fake xangas.

    Oh I noticed your birthday was 9/18…coincidentally that’s my birthday too!

    Well feel free to drop by if you’d like

    Jess

  • I avoid getting involved in flame wars.  As folks have found out, I refuse to get involved or react the way they want.  Too bad.  I won’t play.
    I do see the entertainment value of watching, however.

  • I couldn’t help myself and went to have a look at his site. Ummmm…….yeah. I have visions of a skinny kid wearing a bullet belt, perhaps cutting himself because the girls won’t let him in their panties. 

  • You’re not being mean, people are just weak.

    There are some people I was really mean to on Xanga, and I don’t regret it.  They were idiots in my opinion. 

    So, right on. 

    ____
    Robbing kids?  That’s like when someone stole my prescription glasses at school.  Ugh… living in the ghetto is so disadvantageous.

  • @wileyXcoyote - No, your asking if you knew me came after I had written this entry.  It struck me sorta funny, in fact.  As for longevity, I celebrated my sixth Xangaversary this month.
    I visited your site because I saw your username where you had left a comment on someone else’s site.  I am a close relative of Coyote.  My other Xanga site is KaiOaty.

  • Confrontation scares the fertilizer right out of this garden. 

  • Thank you for the nice comment. I was looking around your site a lot last night and commented on one of your pictures. Your pictures are beautiful! I love pictures and I take a lot of them, but nothing I’ve taken compares to the ones you have posted here. I was also reading some of your posts and that one where the guy thought you were stalking him or whatever he thought, lol just because you left a comment had me roaring! Well have a good one. =)

  • I can attest to what wileyXcoyote says… heh.  Lovely stalking ex-friend drama, and all.  Cops involved, etc.

    I don’t know if I would call nice people mealy-mouthed, personally… unless of course, they’re only nice on the outside.  Then definitely.  But I have to believe in the goodness of people, at least some of them, and the ability to put themselves in others’ shoes in order to better understand how to respond, or how to take what the other person says with a grain of salt.  It’s more difficult on the internet, kind of like how it’s easier to be an ass when you’re driving a car, because you can’t see the person or read their intentions, except from the expressionless words they type, and their automobile faux pas.

    I used to be guilty of Xanga drama, sometimes starting it, sometimes continuing it.  But I learned to not always speak my mind on the internet, because of how easy it is for others to be mean in response.  I never got any entertainment out of it… It’s refreshing that you can.  Hehe.

  • Oh, and I see now you already responded to Jess!  That’s what I get for reading so thoroughly!

  • @an_age_of_dreams - You seem to be equating “nice” with “good”.  Did you read John’s entry about “no more Mr. Nice Guy”?

    Those words usually mean only that someone approves of something or someone, and beyond that don’t say much.  I prefer honesty, and I think it is dishonest to “put yourself in others’ shoes” and consider what they are going to think about what you say, before you express yourself.  People who do that tend to be insecure and dependent on approval and validation from others, afraid to risk offending someone.  At the other extreme are the people who think about how others will react to their words and try to be as offensive as they can be.  I don’t do either of those things.  I think about what I’m saying and try to make it as accurate and clear as I can.  How other people feel about it is their concern, not mine.

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