July 6, 2006

  • Earthquakes, Plates and Trigger Events

    This comment has had me thinking about earthquakes even more than I usually do:

    …have
    you noticed, perhaps, that your subscription to the earthquake warnings
    has generated a whole lot more since the bombardment of iraq? that’s
    why i have nicknamed him ‘george w.m.d. shrub’, i sincerely believe
    that the constant detonation of explosives during the iraq war has
    unhinged many of the plate margins leading to many more earthquakes and
    volcanic activity around the world.

    Posted 7/4/2006 at 8:11 AM by the_nthian

    That’s a neat trick, because hardly a day passes that I don’t think
    about earthquakes anyway.  I am apparently more sensitive than
    most people are to little shakes occurring locally and big ones at a
    distance.  That fact became a topic of discussion locally about
    fifteen years ago when we had a swarm of little earthquakes here.

    For days and daze I had been asking Greyfox, “Did you feel that?” 
    His answer was always, “no,” and very soon he began giving me funny
    looks when I’d ask.  Soon after that, he expressed the opinion
    that I was imagining things.  Then, when I felt one while we were
    visiting our friends Bear and CeeCee, I asked that question
    again.  Bear looked blankly confused, Greyfox looked slightly
    worried and more than slightly scornful, and CeeCee looked surprised
    and relieved as she chirped, “You felt it, too!?”

    CeeCee and I decided to ask around and find out how many other people
    were aware of the little shakes.  I found no others, and she found
    only one:  a nurse at the local health clinic, also female. 
    Until recently, I’d had no easy way to independently confirm what our
    senses were indicating.  Then, the USGS changed their reporting
    system and began allowing users to change the settings in the new Earthquake Notification Service  (formerly the BIGQUAKE service).

    I reset the local region sensitivity for a few days until I got tired
    of the mass of email it generated.  One thing I learned was that I
    feel some local quakes below magnitude 2, and can be awakened from a
    sound sleep by some below magnitude 4.  But I digress.

    My intention had been to respond to Ian’s question.  After much
    thought, I failed to come to any definite conclusion.  I asked
    Greyfox if he thought bombardment in Iraq would cause increased seismic
    activity.  He was fairly certain that it wouldn’t, or that it was
    at least highly unlikely.  I’m not sure.  I have no idea how
    likely or unlikely it is.  I am fairly certain it is possible.  I suspect that the the recent increase in activity might more likely be attributable to global warming and retreating glaciers, but I’m not sure.

    Both factors could be contributing.  It’s also possible that
    some quakes are being triggered by the removal of oil from
    belowground.  Small changes can, over time and space, trigger big
    effects.  That’s 
    The Butterfly Effect

    “The butterfly effect is the idea that in a
    chaotic system, a
    very small change to the system applied at a certain point
    in time makes the future change in a very dramatic way. 
    Something as small as a butterfly flapping its wings now 
    might affect the weather system on a global scale six
    months in the future.”
    I felt that the likelihood of explosions
    on the surface causing shifts belowground was increased by the
    fact of its being in that location in the boundary zone where more
    separate plates interact than at any other point on the planet. 
    Greyfox thought that the fact that the crust is greatly broken up,
    crumbled, in that area would lessen the likelihood of small impulses
    causing large effects.  His opinion is strongly held, while mine
    rests entirely on uncertainty.  That certainty/uncertainty factor
    has absolutely no bearing on the theory’s truth or fallacy.  Of
    that I am certain.

    The African, Arabian and Indian plates come together in that region.  Well… that’s not precisely correct.  They meet there, share common boundaries, but are actually spreading, pulling apart.  That process has formed the Y-shaped triple rift
    of the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, and Great Rift Valley.  The link
    just above goes to a page detailing how that spreading will eventually
    separate a new Somali Plate from the African.

    When I visualize the action of plate tectonics or continental drift, I
    see a process similar to what I have seen on the surface of a pot of
    fudge cooking or in a retort of molten metal.  The crust on the
    surface breaks up and the chunks shift around, driven by the convection
    currents within the liquid beneath.

    More links:

    bigger “better” (more detailed) plate_map
    an even better one showing directions of drift
    Sciencedaily article on using fractals to predict quakes
    map of quake epicenters 1980-1990
    Do old glaciers cause new earthquakes in New Madrid, Missouri?
    earthquake triggering processes

    PS:  I felt this one
    at magnitude 1.4 early this morning.  It woke
    me.  I didn’t report to the USGS that I felt it.  I guess
    it’s a matter of intellectual vanity or something of that sort.  I
    know that if I report every little shake I feel, I’ll get a reputation
    as a crank.  My prime criteria for whether I report a quake or not
    is whether I hear it (rumbles in the earth and/or pops and creaks in
    the building) or it sets my hanging plants swinging and rattles my
    earthquake indicator (hanging keys).

Comments (9)

  • Interesting…..

  • I would consider it highly unlikely that the bombardment of Iraq is causing seismic activity… and I’m just going to keep hoping that’s true!!! 

    I like your high tech earthquake indicator

  • Since i forgot where i got it from, THIS http://xbf.xanga.com/c0e8742047d3314943297/b10711667.jpg should do the trick

    i remembber the first time i read a book on chaos theory and heard about the butterfly effect…i thought how karmastically Krishnaesque it was

  • I think it would make sense for the bombing to, at the very least, not help the situation any.  If someone figured out that yes, it is making things worse, I wouldn’t be surprised.  Either way, it’s very interesting.

  • I live in the midwest and I’ve been in three earthquakes, and none of them did much of anything but rumble

  • Very interesting stuff. I’m a huge proponent of the butterfly effect. Thanks for stopping by. You’re very intriguing. I’ll be back

  • Funny, neither of us mentioned the B-fly effect last night–especially since I had gotten half a dozen (knives, not insects) that day–I thought of it  a nanosecond before reading your mention of it here.

    I assume you are at the dentist right now–I will leave a brief message privately at my site.

  • Oh yep I was on the quake list for california..we need little ones to keep the pressure from building up..and indeed I feel the little ones..I agree however..too much attention can have an effect so I unsubbed and now ck in every few months to see where * the over 5.5 ones were in my local area..I also love volcanoes  as the ring of fire awakens people who ten years ago didnt notice now notice…volcanoes are beautful things..thought carries energy so…

    I am patient but wouldnt mind an update at mirandasabsolution@yahoo.com…..hope you are just busy and not ill..

    hint nudge squiggle and arch eye brows…I know there is some really good reason my reading is taking forever…ha..I was not on this planet in the near past or…Im not really here now and this is all a bit of a confused dream..I dream you health and joy…((Wings))

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