October 23, 2005
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Irony upon Irony
Due to the link from Featured_Grownups, my repost on Friday, October 21, 2005, of the gang rape episode
from my Hells Angels years got many more comments than I usually
receive. Ironically, relatively few of them were the kind I love
best, the ones that cry out to be answered. A few people even
left comments to say that the post was so painful to read that they
couldn’t stand to read it all the way through. One of them (and
this is REALLY IRONIC, considering the fact that his NPD renders him
lacking in empathy) was my Old Fart,
Greyfox. The irony for them is that it was only the top part of
the story that was harrowing. Further along, I got to the
inspirational part, with at least one ironic laugh thrown in along the
way.There’s
a bit of irony in the fact of my having chosen that story as
my “Worst Experience Ever.” I had some trouble initially deciding
how to define “worst” there. Those who have been attentively
reading me for any significant time know that I’m transcending the
dualistic fallacy, learning to avoid absolutistic concepts such as
bad/worst or good/best. I had to decide between telling about my
most embarrasing moment (that would have to have been crawling
bare-assed through the window the morning after the drunken date rape incident), my most emotionally painful experience (the stillbirth of my second son and dealing with the undertaker ), my “guiltiest secret” (killing my father),
or the most ridiculously self-destructive situation I’ve ever gotten
myself into. That last one was a toss-up between my first
marriage at age fourteen (a long story I’m still
telling — links to available episodes can be found along the right hand side on my main page.) and the entire three years that I stayed as a Stockholm
Syndrome captive of a pathetic and sadistic outlaw biker.
Except for
my photograph of the geriatric Alaskan Hells Angel at left,
throwing darts at last year’s Spring Fling here in my neighborhood, and
the Triker patch below, right, all the photos in this entry were stolen
off the web and are only here to illustrate that there still are a few
outlaw bikers around Black and white art shots are the inspired
work of Doug Barber. If he is half as beautiful as his work, …please, somebody, hold me back, ’cause the guy is obviously dangerous.The Hells Angels won. It didn’t seem appropriate to post
the whole ten episodes, so I just picked the outstandingly horrible
rape segment to post. Then, upon reflection, after I posted it
and read some of the other Featured_Grownups
posts, I thought of a few more experiences that would, in one way or
another, qualify as a “worst,” including a completely avoidable car
wreck on Doug’s sixth birthday, which I had foreseen in a dream.Here’s another irony: I had been avoiding going back to revise the old
memoirs to put in some additional details and correct a few facts as
memories surfaced, such as the name of the bike club we started in
Oregon. My reasoning had been that it was more important to continue
writing memoirs of times not yet covered. But I was stuck on that
front, or both of those
fronts since the narrative has two ends as it now stands: the
mid-fifties and the mid-seventies. Yesterday, I revised over half of
the biker episodes, and have caught a new wave of enthusiasm for
telling more stories. Inspiration is such an odd and ineffable thing.Miashineon wrote:
…I
have not done the work you speak of in your post. It was attempted and
backfired. I actually left a session and drove the wrong way down a one
way street. This was out in Tuscon. It scared the heck out of me. A cop
stopped me before i hurt anyone. I never had the courage to try it
again. I told the therapist that if my mind wanted to wall something
off it was fine by me. She drew me a picture,a schematic about how much
of your self walling off your past can cost you…but i was more
interested in being functional.I
have to agree with Mia on that. One of the things that Greyfox
and I have learned about traumatic dissociation through our shamanic
work, is that it is always pointless and often counter-productive to
bring back awareness of things one is not ready to process and
transcend. People vary in their traumatic response to
events. Simple criticism or rejection can be as wounding to some
of us as torture is to others. Therapists, and shamans, need to
be very sensitive to their clients’ idiosyncracies before trying to
“help”.On the other hand…
Reading this is like reliving my past trauma…
which is very similar, except for the gang part, and the bikers, but
the torture and sadistic mind games are very familiar. And what helped
me was exactly what you did, gettting it down in front of me to read,
experience it not as a vivid memory, but as a healing process to
understand what really happened, and who’s fault it is. My family is
very screwed, and understanding much of my family history, and their
sexual issues, helps me understand why some of them took it out on me,
and how to heal my mind and emotions.Although I will admit I still have resounding issues with men,
relationships, and trust issues, that I am not sure how to battle
through… I suppose with time comes wisdom, or I really have to work
on my issues, which seems too painful at times to even face. Feeling
like it’s ok to blame someone or something else doesn’t seem solid
enough to me… which is a problem to deal with all in itself.
~Megs
Posted by BiblesEatBabiesYeah,
once you start the process, the only way to maintain your self-esteem
is to continue the healing with forgiveness and love. One
suggestion: don’t try to “battle through” the obstacles that come
up on the road to healing. Take the intellectual and moral high
road and get over them. Fighting this crap is fighting yourself,
and that is the same as going under. If we don’t get over our
pain, we will go under it.MyKi_Whatzerface wrote:
I certainly hope things have changed… I just
saw a contingent of bikers riding for charity last weekend and had a
chance to chat w/ a couple female riders (mamas?) in the ladies room of
a restaurant near where the ride took place.had I read your account first, I’m sure i would have regarded them
through different eyes– or at least wondered if they were wearing a
property patch or something…Never was there a time when all “bikers” were outlaws. The
“One-Percenter” title of which Hells Angels and their affiliated clubs
are so proud, came from a newspaper article that decried how the “evil
one percent” of motorcycle riders were giving them all a bad
name. In some parts of the outlaw biker world, things have gotten
rougher and more chaotic, with murders, disappearances, and open
warfare between rival clubs. Crack cocaine and meth have had a
lot to do with that. When I was in that scene the Northern
California Hells Angels were selling amphetamines, but looked down on
anyone who used them.“In both Canada, where the Angels have waged a
four-year battle with the Rock Machine gang, and in Scandinavia, where
the foe is the familiar Bandidos, the fighting has been murderous and
highly destructive.In
Quebec alone, police say, the war between the Angels and the Rock
Machine has resulted in 102 killings and 118 attempted murders.In
August, Canada’s Criminal Intelligence Service reported that the 249
known member of the Hells Angels are responsible for extensive drug
smuggling and frequent use of violence.‘(They) remain a national priority for law enforcement in Canada,’ the agency said.
In
Denmark, Sweden and Norway, the two sides deployed rocket-propelled
anti-tank grenades and AK-47 assault rifles in their battles.All told, the wars there have claimed scores of lives and left hundreds wounded, authorities say.”
msnbcOne of the most gratifying things for me about posting my biker story
in 2002 was a series of emails I received from a woman whose sister had
been ripped off for a mama by Gypsy Jokers in the Pacific
Northwest. She found my site through a Google search and wrote to
me hoping I had seen or heard of her sister, but my association with
bikers ended long before hers began. In my turn I did some web
searching, sent out a few emails and tried to hook the concerned sister
up with reporters and cops who might help her. I heard back from
her a few months later. She found her sister. She was
scarred, addicted and looked older than her years, but was alive and
the family was glad to have reached her. I keep hoping I’ll hear
from them again.Biker gangs share these characteristics:
- They show off their colours in public.
- Biker gangs use force and violence to survive and grow. Intimidation, arms and explosives are their weapons of choice.
- The organizations have a hierarchical structure. Committing
crimes is left to new recruits while those higher up reap the rewards. - The hierarchical structure allows the leaders to operate
with impunity while flaunting their image of power to attract recruits
and draw them into crime. - It is difficult for law-enforcement agencies to infiltrate
these organizations because becoming a member involves committing
crimes.
CBC News
“HOLY CRAP!!!!!!
…I understand
about not taking things personally, I really do…..but the pain, and
the effects on every other area of your life—every other interaction
with EVERYONE… EVERYWHERE… do you feel it doesn’t have effects
everywhere… do you feel healing is possible, and you are healed? Or
do you feel more that you’ve incorporated these experiences into the
person who is YOU? I wonder because I’ve been thinking a lot about
“overcoming” and have decided there is a big difference for ME
personally in “overcoming” and “healing” —not sure healing will ever
come, but overcoming (for me) is easier.”
Posted by ilsurviveI’d probably need to talk to Jennifer/Jamie for a while to understand
how “overcoming” differs from “healing” for her. Semantics is a
bitch.
I agree with Nietzsche that whatever doesn’t destroy us strengthens
us. In that way, of course all the stupid and “unfortunate” shit
I walked into in this shitstorm of a life of mine has made me one tough
cookie, strong, durable and a whole lot wiser than when I began.
That’s one of those inescapable effects of my experiences. For
me, just surviving the trauma was “overcoming,” just getting through it
to the point where I could go on with life without needing to be in
denial about it or to soak myself in booze or dope to get through my
days. Healing is what happened when I forgave the assholes (and I
must count myself among the assholes that got me into everything I’ve
had to crawl out of) and let go of the injury and pain.
pyramidtermite wrote:i’ve always wondered what goes through the minds of
people like your rapist and his pals … do they really think that they
can go through life being invunerable to anything that anyone might
choose to do to them? … or are they just fronting their way through
life, thinking that the best defence is a good offence? … or don’t
they really think about it much at all?i wonder what they think
about themselves now and the things they did … even if karma didn’t
catch up to them … i’m not sure i’d want to be 50 or 60 something
with the knowledge that i was a bad actor earlier in my life … i
wonder if they ever look back and think, “what the hell was i doing?”but
i guess some kind of degree of honesty would be necessary to even ask
that question … as usual, i’ve got nothing but questions and no
answers … but i’m glad you have the presence of spirit and knowledge
to look at these experiences without getting frazzled or taking it out
on yourself … or others.Their “invulnerability” (for most of the outlaws I knew) only came as a
result of their banding together — “safety in numbers”, the bravado of
the mob. A few were truly courageous and outrageous even
when on their own, but most of them kept to the pack because it made
them feel big and tough. Obviously, they had some neurotic need
for that.Few
of them were voluntarily forthcoming about their inner feelings, but I
was around often enough at times when their inhibitions were loosened
with drugs to learn a lot — and my access to their unguarded moments
was increased by my often being in the garage or workshop doing
mechanical work, where few other women ever ventured. Many of
them had mother-issues: abandonment or abuse. Some of them
were tough-talking and would rag on women around their brothers but
treated their women okay outside the group. In general, I judged
their excessive need to dominate women as being some form of
compensatory behavior to offset their own feelings of inadequacy or
inferiority.What they think about themselves now… who knows?. Most of them
were short on introspection to begin with and did the best they could
through drugs and their outlaw ethos to stay ignorant of their own
inner drives and motivations. Few of the ones I knew over a
quarter of a century ago are still alive and of those who are many are
incarcerated. I now live just a mile from the Alaska Hells Angels
clubhouse. Some of them have friends among some of my
friends. They are the security force (Karma Kontrol) at the
Talkeetna Bluegrass Festival where I had a booth doing psychic readings
for many years. In other words, I see them socially
sometimes. They are mostly old guys, some growing frail and
feeble. Somehow, though, they still manage to maintain the
illusion of their own superiority. I suspect that staying loaded
all the time makes that easier for them.(mostly for MyKi‘s
information) The woman in Doug Barber’s shot of Greek Pete here is
identified as “mama Angie,” but it’s hard to say for sure whether she
is really the property of the club, because “biker mama” is a
designation that doesn’t always mean what it meant in the 1960s.VaporousVenom asked:
Do you still have the ‘property patch’.. you dont let anyone call you property now, do you?Oh, Hell no, on both of those. The
Oregon Black Ravens Property patches were retired when the Free Souls
MC was formed. I burned mine.Even the dog knows that I’m the alpha animal in this pack. Twenty
years or so ago, a windstorm at the Alaska State Fair blew a little
wall-hanging thing to me and it still hangs in here. It’s a
willow-twig hoop with a piece of leather laced into it, that says,
“Around this camp there is only one Chief. The rest are all
Indians.” My ex-, Doug’s dad Charley, always said that he was the
mule and I was the driver. I learned a lot from my biker
experience.I feel I must comment on this comment, even though I can’t find a way to do it in a constructive and loving manner:
“Sometimes there is just not enough Hate and Death Magick on the World…
*wishes bad things on many (too) many bad and abandoned souls*”Posted DaemAeon
BULLSHIT! There’s plenty, way more than is healthy. We don’t need yours added to all the rest.I have to stop somewhere, even though as I have been writing this more
comments have been coming in that I could respond to. Just one
more and then I’ll quit and post this.Jamie/Jennifer (ilsurvive) came back for a second round:
…I’d love to say that I’ve healed, but I see
evidance that it isn’t the case all around me. Pushing away, both
physically and emotionally from those closest to me is my biggest area
of trouble, and something I feel powerless to control. I mean, as soon
as I start thinking about, writing about, or dealing at all with trauma
I subconsciously seem to start the pushing. When I am in this state
the slightest touch to my body–even something so simple as a touch on
my shoulder causes me to flee, and I find myself constantly on guard,
watching and making sure that nobody touches me. Sounds crazy, eh?
It’s a big problem though, really and causes big problems in my
relationships as I’m sure you could imagine. A hug to me feels like I
am being suffocated and sitting there and tolerating it is almost
impossible. Eeek!That you are a B-Mom also fascinated me. I look forward to hearing
more about that in the future. I am so sorry about your oldest. What
happened? And your youngest….do you and she keep in touch?
Hmmm…in SOME ways…ONLY in financial ways I’d say my life was more
advantageous with my adoptive parents, also. However, I think nothing
is more advantageous than growing up with your true family
(emotionally)…if that makes sense!?“Crazy,” isn’t the word I’d use for your
aversion to being touched. It is a normal response to abuse, just
as “normal” as the way that many sexually-abused children develop
seductive behaviors. Being normal doesn’t mean it’s healthy, but
you’ll have a better chance of transcending it if you will accept it as
normal and let yourself off that “crazy” hook. That you are aware
of it is a healthy sign.We are all different, so I can’t say what would work for you. One
of the big advantages I had was loving parents and a relatively
non-abused childhood. Even so, in my case self-healing of the
guilt over “killing” my father and “abandoning” my kids, and the trauma
that started with my first marriage in my teens, demanded a lot of
courage and acceptance.Group therapy and a shamanic “soul retrieval” brought out the
guilt that I had buried and denied. I had to accept and forgive
myself. Hearing someone at a Narcotics Anonymous meeting say
that, “holding resentment is like taking poison and hoping that the
other guy dies,” convinced me that I had to accept and forgive
what had been done to me. It was difficult, especially to forgive
the fresh emotional wounds from the addict I’m married to, but I did it
and everyone in our family has benefited from my having the guts to
take that chance.If you want to read the story of how I lost my first three kids, scroll
down past the video module on the right side of my main page, to the memoir links and start reading at “My
story of the ’60s…” My elder daughter died of heart failure at
age 29, presumably from cocaine. We had been reunited a few years
before then and spent some loving time together.My younger daughter found me, was initially fascinated with me and
amazed at how alike we were, right down to our handwriting. She
is bipolar and erratic, and has pushed me away and pulled me back
several times. Some Xangans knew her as angiem, but on one of her
withdrawals she shut down her blog. She came back later as Mystic_22, and stopped updating that one after a while.With the help of Google, I was able to find my elder son, the one I had
allowed to be taken away from me. I was blogging here at the time
and documented the search and the telephone reunion. I’ll have to
search out those entries and post some links. He says he doesn’t
hold anything against me, but that doesn’t ring true. He’s
distant, doesn’t answer my emails, didn’t invite me to his wedding, etc.Jamie, you and I have both gained a similar view of the practice of
adoption, but from opposite sides of it. I have heard so many
stories like yours, some of them from my own biological children, that
I cringe at the thought of adoption… but the institutional solution,
orphanages, foster homes, and workhouses for abandoned kids, is
worse. Let’s “talk” about this some more some time.To the women reading this:
If you don’t find the men pictured here attractive, you’re not statistically
normal. Most women are attracted to “bad boy” types, to dangerous
and violent men, even if they have the good sense to avoid involvement with them. I think it is an atavistic instinct, a leftover
from primitive times when it was advantageous to have a dangerous and
violent protector. In the more enlightened age that is coming, I
think we can learn to appreciate other “strengths” in our men. I
hope they can all learn to cultivate other manifestations of their
masculinity.
Comments (16)
You show such strength and insight in your writing.
I have many hells angels stories as we were closely affiliated with them growing up. No experience was bad though. Quite the opposite, they were feircely protective of our family and very loving towards us. It is the only experience I know.
Part of not wanting to complete your story is very personal and the other is that I had never seen the h.a. in that light. It was disturbing to think these people were other than they appeared to me.
Your story is a good one and yes inspirational.
You have come a long way. BRAVO!!!
These guys don’t do anything for me, so I guess I’m not normal. But I already knew that.
Apparently, I’m not normal.
I like my men big and manly-looking, but I also like them less full of themselves than those guys. Confidence is one thing, arrogance is another… I also know very well that I’m not nearly submissive enough to be able to convince myself that I was having a good time with those guys. Anyway, I think I’m in a nesting phase, and none of them look like they’d be any good for the long haul. 
I guess I am normal..but only when looking at them from a distance…and I think your correct about our instinctve response to a certain type of male swagger,,,but its tempered entirely for any woman who has actually had to deal with all that bravado and attitude…if her self esteem survives ..if you want respect it gets old real fast….I know I kind of assumed a tough exterior too..i was for awhle as cold as ice..I have a painting I did that hangs in my living room and it is one of my favorites. It is of a heart..white and cold held in a lattice work of what might be ice crystals..and just at the perimeter of the heart agaist the jet black background there a hint of fire color spreading into the lattice work. When I finished it i could not decide if the heart was thawing or freezing…i finally decided it had t be thawing.
I don’t. I like my men a little effeminate. For. Some. Unknown. Reason.
I missed out on Q&A period…
Fuck… I missed show and tell too…
I’m gonna ask this anyway and if you’ve answered it before forgive me…
K?
Did Big Sam Really leave Seattle in the year of 92?
You can kick my ass now…… I know ya kin…..
Great shots…. Even the stolen ones you alpha animal…………………..
This is yet another outstanding post you’ve written above! I really look forward to reading all of your links in your left module! You are a very gifted writer, and clearly a very deep and intelligent thinker! I’m glad that xanga gave you the inspiration to revise your older work, and continue on with new stories, this past weekend. I was given a lot of inspiration this weekend via xanga, also. So much to think about…. Never before have I enjoyed xanga so much as this past weekend.
I have to tell you that every time that I see the name “Grey Fox” mentioned on your site and in your posts I think of music festivals. It reminds me of the “Grey Fox” music festival held in upstae NY, each summer. Then I start to thinking about another one, “Gathering of the Vibes” because right before it there is some big biker thing going on at it’s site, and if I’m not mistaken the bikers stay and are in charge of “security” at the festival. Scary looking bunch they are! I’ve never seen them do anything but keep the peace, and enjoy themselves partying at this festival. I think there must be “good” and “bad”people everywhere….in every group of people!?
^ I must remind all–at the highest metaphysical level, there is no difference between “good” and “bad”–and even at this level those words are merely labels to denote things we approve of, or do not approve of.
Xgram–to see how my day is going, see my blogm which is still private as I write, You’ll laugh. I hope.
attracted to bad boys? meeeeee?
well thank god i’m normal in some sense of the word, eh?
and…in answer to your question…i don’t know when the hell i’ll get a vacation from my vacation. turned right around and went to the folks house this past weekend. i’m needing to hole up in a hotel somewhere. too bad i don’t have a lap top…or the ability to just kick back and let myself relax.
i’m so freaking behind on reading and/or commenting here there and everywhere. did you ever get the newspapers back from greyfox so you could savor the news?
i really have anything to say….i feel a sense of impotence in front of all this…
Wow, I have read your site over and over again. I had an experience so similar to yours it’s errie. I suspose that’s all gang rape victims. I infact found you by looking for information on rape because I have been trouble by my relaspe into old feeling lately. My job puts some of the violence against women right in my face everyday and it makes it difficult to keep it all in check for I like you have very strong feeling about rape and it is so hard not to take it home with me. When I was raped I went down so many avenues trying to find help and made so many mistakes.I was never taken seriously because the bikers that raped terriorized me effectively enought that I feared their retaliation on my family and never reported it. Later when one of them got out of prison he stalked me for a year raping me three more times before my man came into the picture. Men that are use to working in a group don’t do well alone and it was amazing how quickly he feel without his bros to help him. I was angrier than you though. It’s been years and I still have trouble with self destructive behavior though I have moved on like you and done amazing things. Still I can fall back into my old way in the drop of a hat. I have to constantly be on guard for my need to be in control in all situations. I have a wonderful man who has helped me through it all. He had been her for twenty five years and we’re still going strong. I want you to know that I was inspired by your sight to tell my own story. I hadn’t had the courage to do that until now. Funny thing is, it felt so good to do so. Putting in down on paper was like pouring from my head and my heart. I felt instantly better. I must tell you as well that I was really helped by much of what you said and I hope that others can be helped by my words too. I must admit that I still sometimes have man issues. I fight and fight them hard, the bad ones at least. But it’s not always easy to know the good from the bad. We have good and bad parts so sometimes I actually feel pity for these animals though not often. Well I don’t tell it as well as you but my emotions were certainly the same as yours. Suffering truely makes us grow for I am so impressed with your wisdom and admire your indepth understanding of all thing emotional. I have five kids two of them are now grown up enough for me to let read my blog. I have never told them about what happened to me. I am still to chicken to let them though. I fear their reaction to it. But feeling as if I had to hid it all these years has been so difficult but I never want to burdon anyone with the feeling I have. Anyway, Thank you so much for sharing your story. And I hope the good part for you, comes with knowing that you are an inspiration to others. I will continue to blog my story until it’s all out. No one reads my site yet as I’m new but maybe someone will be helped. Thanks again and best of everything to you. You deserve it.
I have to read it again …I remember being brought to the HA house in either Oakland or Richmond by my then “husband”. I was just a little country girl who worked at the Safeway in Oakland. I have no idea why he would have taken me there, I wonder if he was too stupid to understand the “risk” himself! He also brought a several HA to “our” house where our children were. I guess I can call it “luck” that “nothing happened.” But my little girl was later raped by HA , she had no fear of going where she should not have gone, afterall, her father had brought his friends to his home. That little girl (age 44) is now in the hospital after a lifetime of alcohol and drug abuse she was run over by a car. A poor attempt to escape because now, two weeks later, she is still not responding, has steel rods in both legs, a broken jaw, an arm that does not move and the brain injury that renders her SILENT. The silence of a women who could not escape the never ending abuse. Her father visits, holds her hand, I wonder if her remembers the history.
Kathy, this was a really good post. When I read the comment from ilsurvive some of her symptoms seem much like PTSD,. I know as I have PTSD. There are some great programs out there to help if she wants hooked up to one, I will help her.magdalenamama
Soul Retrieval is very easy for the client. They lie relaxed and
comfortable and I journey to the Lower World, using the sound of my
rattle to help change my level of consciousness so I can journey and
search for the missing soul part. Very often I am given a gift to bring
back to the client along with a power animal, an ally, which assists and
supports the client on their own journey through life.
Soul Retrieval
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Their Omega and hence these timepieces are exact Omega Watches . There are countless people who have been gifted with Replica Omega and are wearing them with pride, but they do not know that they are not originals.Even these wise folks who go about flaunting Replica Omega Watches do not know or have any clue about what they have on their wrist.