September 11, 2005

  • Free Will

    Greyfox and I have an ongoing metaphysical discussion that crops up
    once in a while, and it came up again today.  I can’t say for sure
    if it’s a disagreement or a misunderstanding.  I keep thinking
    that if he only understood what I’m saying, he’d agree.  Maybe not.

    We never have seen eye to eye on metaphysical matters.  Before we
    met, in 1990 when we were corresponding, he told me he was “studying
    Seax Wicca theology.”  About twenty years before then, during the
    homeless time when I spent all my days in the public library, I had
    studied theologies of many religions and found nits to pick with every
    one of them.  Then followed my grand epiphany
    and a return to the gnosis I had known as a very young child.  I
    lost all interest then in theology and only wanted to broaden and
    strengthen my communion with Spirit.  By the time I met Greyfox, I
    wasn’t just listening to the Divine voice in my mind, I was channeling
    it for clients, living as an oracle.  That’s how he met me, even.

    After he had married me and moved to Alaska, he told me that he had
    done so because he believed that we were fated to be together and he
    had no choice.  I didn’t at that time, and don’t recall any time in my life when I ever
    did believe in fate.  I might have tried it on for size briefly
    during the time in my youth when I was converting to a new religion
    every time I found a fatal flaw in the last one, but free will was what
    I was taught as a child and free will is consistent with everything
    I’ve ever heard from that voice in my head.  Even when I believed in
    Karma and Dharma, I believed that we had choices about how and when we
    would release karma or fulfill dharma.  I wholeheartedly accepted
    what Aliester Crowley taught:  “Love is the Law, Love under
    Will.  Do what Thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law.”

    Metaphysically, Greyfox and I have both matured and changed.  He
    now understands and accepts that we humans have free will.  He
    understands Divine Will in the terms of Neale Donald Walsch’s
    Conversations with God.  Walsch says that God wants us to be, to
    live up to, our own highest conception of what we can be.  I don’t
    argue with that, but whenever Greyfox and I get into one of these
    discussions it seems evident that the two of us have somewhat different
    conceptions of what that means.  He keeps quoting it at me and
    insisting that he believes in free will, implying thereby that he
    thinks I do not.

    At Twelve-Step meetings, I’m totally in tune with, “praying only for
    knowledge of God’s will for us and the power to carry that out.” 
    Other than my ongoing all-day, 24/7 unceasing prayer of thanks, all I
    ever ask for is wisdom, guidance, and strength.  I stand there at
    the end of each NA meeting and say the Third Step Prayer emphatically
    and with feeling:  “Take my will and my life, guide
    me….”   Greyfox seems to think that by doing this I am
    abrogating my own free will. 

    I suppose that’s an understandable mistake.  Those meetings are
    frequented by many people who have interpreted those words to mean that
    they can and should just give up their own wills and let the Almighty
    take care of everything.  I think that is a departure from what
    the founders’ intent was.  I see it as an unfortunate one because
    it has become an obstacle to many people’s ability to accept the
    program, and for those who do accept that belief it often leads to
    addictive relapse.  Then they wonder why God didn’t stop them from
    using.

    Greyfox is more outspoken than I, in those meetings, with his
    “heresy”.  He is disgusted and I am distressed at the True
    Believers there who preach the corrupted and distorted dogma of
    powerlessness and seem to think that God’s will for them is to have no
    will of their own.  When they speak of their will, they are
    talking about their addictive cravings, their fear, the drives and
    appetites of the biological machine.  They speak of God as
    separate from themselves, out there somewhere.  They are obviously
    identifying with the sleep of the machine and not with the awakened
    self.  They have not gone within and found the indwelling Divine
    spark.

    I speak in meetings of my reality and share my experiences, but not
    with the attitude that Greyfox has.  I observe that a lot of what
    I say goes over some of their heads.  Greyfox, on the other hand,
    tends to get in their faces and under their skin.  Where the two
    of us are in accord is in the idea that we control our own
    behavior.  We choose our path.  We exercise free will, as
    Divine Will intends for us to do.  I think the only place he and I
    really differ is in that “highest conception of ourselves” that we both
    aim to live up to. 

    Greyfox’s has changed a lot in the decade or so since I convinced him
    to read Conversations with God.  As he transcends his NPD, he sets
    ever higher sights for himself.  He is probably closer to
    realizing his ideal self than I am, because he has never set his ideal
    much higher than where he is at the time.

    Back in the mid-seventies, when I read the Urantia Book, I acquired a
    concept of humanity as godlike and perfectable.  This resonated
    with my Virgo soul.  In three decades I have become much closer to
    realizing that ideal, but the ideal has never changed.  What I
    wanted then is what I want now, to have a will that conforms to the
    Divine Will.  It is my will.  Like everyone else, I was given
    it to do with as I will.  I will, to the best of my ability, do
    what is best.  What could be better than God’s will?

Comments (9)

  • I agree with you regarding free will and listening to the divine voice within. My biggest challenge with organized religions has been the interpretation by others that is fed to the masses. We are in charge of our lives. Our choices shape our futures, and present. I believe our most difficult obstacle to overcome is the belief that we are separate from the Source. It is part of our lesson to learn that while we have chosen to come to this earth to learn whatever our souls divine is necessary, we are one with All That Is. That places in our hands a huge responsibility, but with patience and love — something often hard to come by — we can attain the highest goal: unconditional love regardless of what we encounter.

    Must run.

    hugs,
    wf

  • That is something that I haven’t really put a lot of thought into. 

    It is funny that you mention Conversations with God because my boyfriend and I were just talking about it the other night at dinner with a friend of ours. Interesting.

    Can you please email me your mailing address? My email is carlarenee_22@yahoo.com.

  • I think gnosis is interesting.  Is it true it was written out of the Bible?

  • A Coversation with God is much better than a Monologue with a Vagina.

  • Kathy — i was perusing subs for good reading and i at first read that you and Greyfox were disscussing metamucil  LOL oops

    I too believe in Free Will and the Devine voice within — I must say I cringe when I hear people say they have given it to god … hmmmmmm

    have a good day my friend

  • I think I’ll start reading that book again… I never did get through the whole series, just books 1 and 2

  • I wanted to let you know, I’ve read this entry a good 3 or 4 times today.  It’s resonated well ;)

  • The cabbage that wilt shall be the cole of the slaw!

    I used to spend too much time reading about that kind of stuff. I always liked the idea of the ‘indwelling spark,’ however, as the pilot light of the spirit. It’s too bad so many people confuse that experience with righteousness, though. They get a taste of certainty and having never felt it before, they often believe that’s all there is. It’s sad; they cheat themselves out of so much. Easier than being overwhelmed by the possibilities, however.

  • Thank you SO much for the link–I scrolled down, wndered where the free will thing was–just hadn’t scrolled enough.

    I must agree, my sights are set way lower than yours–I aspire to be an ethical businessperson (who mostly follows the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition!), a reasonably law-abiding citizen (no more than one or two felonies a week),  and one who is kind to animals and patient with fools, drunks, tards, and kids (I have a ways to go there!).

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