September 20, 2004

  • Another Inexplicable Dream
    …and perhaps some even less explicable subsequent meanderings


    In the dream, Greyfox and I are cleaning up a big yard.  I’m 
    raking leaves and debris, and he is throwing them on a trash
    fire.  As we work, we are talking about taking “the bird”
    *somewhere*.  I get the sense that we plan to take it somewhere to
    get rid of it.

    Then a big bird, the size of a big hawk or small raven, but brown and
    without any distinguishing markings, flies into our trash fire. 
    I’m probably about fifty meters away, across the field we’re
    clearing.  I see the bird fly down, and see a continuing
    disturbance in the smoke, see cinders, ash and debris thrown into the
    air for perhaps half a minute, then it flops out of the fire and flies
    away.

    Then I woke, and as I thought of the dream I began to think about
    self-immolation, ritual suicide by fire.  I got up and googled it,
    and found a photo I remember seeing in the news forty years ago, of the
    self-immolation of Thich Quang Duc at a busy intersection in Saigon.

    On the same page, I found a discussion of the act of self-immolation
    that went way beyond what I had been looking for, but which engaged my
    attention and sent me looking for more.

    In terms of the dominance of the discourse on sui generis religion,
    this article [by Jan Yiin-Hua (1965)] constitutes a fine example of how
    an interpretive framework can effectively manage and control an event.
    Relying exclusively on authoritative Chinese Buddhist texts and,
    through the use of these texts, interpreting such acts exclusively in
    terms of doctrines and beliefs (e.g., self-immolation, much like an
    extreme renunciant might abstain from food until dying, could be an
    example of disdain for the body in favor of the life of the mind and
    wisdom) rather than in terms of their socio-political and historical
    context, the article allows its readers to interpret these deaths as
    acts that refer only to a distinct set of beliefs that happen to be
    foreign to the non-Buddhist. And when politics is acknowledged to be a
    factor, it is portrayed as essentially oppressive to a self-evidently
    pure realm of religious motivation and action. In other words, religion
    is the victim of politics, because the former is a priori known to be
    pure. And precisely because the action and belief systems were foreign
    and exotic to the vast majority of Americans, these actions needed to
    be mediated by trained textual specialists who could utilize the
    authoritative texts of elite devotees to interpret such actions. The
    message of such an article, then, is that this act on the part of a
    monk can be fully understood only if it is placed within the context of
    ancient Buddhist documents and precedents rather than in the context of
    contemporary geopolitical debates. (And further, that the ancient
    occurrences of such deaths can themselves be fully understood only from
    the point of view of the intellectual devotees [i.e., Buddhist
    historians].) That the changing geopolitical landscape of South Asia in
    the early 1960s might assist in this interpretation is not entertained.
    It is but another instance of the general proscription against
    reductionism.

    http://www.buddhistinformation.com/self_immolation.htm

    I’d never thought of it in that light.  Ver-ry interesting….

    …and completely diverting me from my original direction.

    Back to Google, and on to more recent events:

    About a month ago, Pebam Chittaranjan set himself on fire as a
    political protest in Manipur, India.   This news source calls it “attempted
    self-immolation” although he later died of his injuries.  I wonder
    who put him out, and whether his act was done with the transcendent
    serenity of Thich Quang Duc.  I want more information.

    Back to Google, and onto a different track altogether:

    In Afghanistan, women are setting themselves afire.  Gurcharan
    Virdee works with Medica Mondiale, a German-based international
    organization supporting women in war and crisis situations.  Her
    sister self-immolated.  She said, “Before she committed suicide,
    my sister always said she hoped she would never return to Afghanistan
    and experience the closed atmosphere of Herat.”

    A government delegation that traveled to Herat last week said at least
    52 women in the province have killed themselves in recent months
    through self-immolation.

    A Herat regional hospital last year recorded 160 cases of attempted
    suicide among girls and women between the ages of 12 and 50. But Virdee
    says the real number is probably much higher.

    “The official statistics which the hospitals have are for the women who
    have actually come to the hospital, who can receive treatment. There
    are many other cases of women burning themselves in the villages, in
    the city, in some of the provinces. But these are women we can’t give
    any estimates on, partly because they never reach the hospital or
    because they die in their villages or city. These are the cases that
    never come to the attention of any public authorities,” Virdee said.

    Afghan officials say poverty, forced marriages, and lack of access to
    education are the main reasons for suicide among women in Herat.
    Domestic violence is also widespread.

    “A lot of women are saying that their husbands don’t allow them to go
    and visit their families. There are severe restrictions on their
    movement, and also there is violence towards them — both physical and
    psychological — and intimidation and isolation,” Virdee said.

    During the five-year rule of the Taliban militia, women were not
    allowed to work or study. They could not leave their homes without a
    male escort and were forced to wear the all-encompassing burqa.

    Since the fall of the Taliban in late 2001, women have once again been
    given the right to study and work. But activists say women in many
    parts of Afghanistan — including Herat, which is ruled with an iron
    fist by provincial governor and warlord Ismail Khan — still face
    repression and harassment.

    Virdee says the continued crackdown on women’s rights is contributing to the rise in self-immolation cases.

    “The institutional repression of the women’s movement is also a big
    factor because women are not allowed to go on their own in taxi cars,
    they are sort of socially policed if they are talking to other men,
    they have to be in the burqa, they have restriction on freedom to work.
    Just recently in Herat a women’s shop which was employing a lot of
    women was closed. The driving school for women was also closed,” Virdee
    said.

    The full story is here.

    Again, I wonder about the partial immolations, the motivations, and the
    preparations of those who perform these acts.  I wonder….

    This may become a two-blog day for me.  I’ve had one on hold for a
    few days, a story about child abuse here in the Susitna Valley that I’d
    like to shove in Margery Glickman’s face to show her there are more
    important things to do than criticize mushers for running their
    dogs.  But first, now that I’ve had breakfast (or half of
    it:  a muffin and half of a cup of tea that’s now gone cold) 
    I’ll get up and nuke another muffin, fill my teacup and get to
    work.  Maybe I’ll make some visible progress in that back room I’m
    trying to prepare to receive Greyfox’s knives, rocks, clothing, etc.,
    when he moves back in for the winter.  The weather is wet and
    cool.  He didn’t open his stand yesterday and he plans to come up
    the valley today and take me out for lunch as a belated birthday
    celebration.  I have to decide where to go.  Always makes me
    do the hard part….

Comments (10)

  • First thing that came to mind, was a Phoenix.

  • Y’know, the phoenix came to my mind, too, before I got off on that self-immolation trip. That does make some sense, with Greyfox and me cleaning up the debris of our old life, and all.

  • Interesting…….

  • I had heard about these instances before but never really read about it.Thanks for the links. 

    BTW: I also thought about The Phoenix…we are study similar literature in my Eng. Comp class and have been comparing/contrasting the stories.

    It is about that time to rake the leaves soon isn’t it…my favorite time of the year!

    Have fun on your lunch date!

  • One of my sons was wih his mates the other day when these two little girls said a man had “showed us his willie” they went to look to find this man kissing and hugging a girl who was no relation to him. You can guess what happened next. My son is six-foot eight himself.

    is Little_Enigma related to you? She is also from Alaskia and into Zen.

    Men will always treat women like that if they can get away with it. Religion of course is just one more excuse for this brutality.

  • LOL as soon as I think I have something original to comment, I am sadly mistaken- the Phoenix came to my mind as well. I study and practice some Buddhist concepts and your passages today astound me. It seem so extreme- burning the self, literally. I have read, in the past few years, several books and articles regarding the plight of women in middle eastern countries and it saddens my heart. I help to manage a bookstore in an airport and veiled or garbed women from those regions will not even talk to a man. We forget this at times at the store when one of the male workers will greet a woman and not get acknowledgement. We have to keep an eye out and to make sure one of the female workers greets and helps out the ladies. I get mad sometimes when the men will interrupt me while I am talking to their wife or wives!

  • For these women time has actually stood still…I am aghast that such things can happen today. I had no idea. Thank you and I will be spending some time today surfing for more info!

    Good thoughts coming your way!

  • Xanga-gram.  Silky is still great with kittens.

    Felony Flats gossip of the day–Hunter and Pathetic Bob had a falling-out; evidently Bob gave Hunter great NI when he referred to the denizens as “retards,” Hunter says he’ll call the cops if Bob ever shows up at his door again.

    Please have Doug check the mail for a pick-up slip if he hasn’t gotten the mail already, I may run in real quick and get stuff early tomorrow (Wednesday).

    When (if?) you come in Thursday, please bring in my blue/gray jacket and Eddie Bauer down jacket, I will probably be needing it soon.  Bottom line today, around $80.

    FYI, got more cereal for Doug.

    Also, posted the blog on Terrible Terry.

    Talk to you tonight in a few hours. 

    Love ya!

    Oh, the latest political flap–in a new ad for Tony, they quote Ms Murky as referring to the big Valdez spill as “that little issue.”  Also, she gave a news conference at an Exxon station once.

  • I couldn’t sleep and got up and read your blogg…I have never heard of this before, this self-immolation. Now I really can’t sleep. My heart feels heavy and sad for these women.

  • A powerful act indeed. Especially when we consider the fact that burning people at the stake was one of the Catholic church’s preferred methods of execution during the Spanish inquisition and during colonial Hispanic rule in the Americas. Definitely not the kind of death you’d want imposed on you. Yet to willingly choose it certainly transcends (but includes) the boundaries of socio-political statement. I haven’t the words (and I usually have too many).

    Thanks for your comments too. Especially those pertaining to Teotihuacan. I’ve forgotten the name of the book but it described a period quite similar to the one you spoke of. I’m also big on Nagualism if that isn’t already apparent. I consider Castaneda my original teacher since I studied his works long before I got into Buddhism.

    Ahamsa.

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